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Comment on UK wants to weasel out of demand for Apple encryption back door

Correct, standard iCloud data is accessible with a warrant. But the UK wanted their own backdoor so they have constant access without a warrant.

But with advanced data protection, Apple can’t provide the data because they don’t have the encryption keys, regardless of a warrant.

Important to note iMessage is always E2E encrypted though, so iMessages cannot be accessed even with a warrant. Advanced data protection just expands that to all iCloud data

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Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Using iMessage with backups does mean the backups are unencrypted and accessible by warrant (unless you use advanced data protection)

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- kautau@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Ah yes, that’s true as well
  
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Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Okay interesting, thank you for the info.

Who even uses iMessage these days? Pretty sure I turned it off completely because it was messing with the 5 SMS I send in a year …

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- tarknassus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Out of my 10 most recent client contacts, only one has used SMS. The rest are all iMessage.
  
  Sure, that’s anecdotal. But I’m in the UK and this is my experience.
  
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- kautau@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  iMessage is far more common in the US afaik. Whereas most people elsewhere will use WhatsApp or whatever, nobody in my extended family uses anything but iMessage to communicate
  
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  - Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Ah, yeah right, the US is still stuck in the 00s with that (and payment methods).
    
    But iMessage doesn’t work on Android and by default the message will just fail if they have an Android phone and you use iMessage.
    
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    tarknassus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Really? Mine defaults to SMS if they don’t receive it as an iMessage message. I can’t recall it ever failing, only a long while back I would get a failure that prompts me to send as SMS - and I’d do it. It’s automatic now.
    
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    coolmojo@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That is interesting. In Europe it just switches to text message automatically when sending to people with android.
    
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