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Comment on Rising rocket launches linked to ozone layer thinning

As if we didn’t know this already.

Space launches disrupt ozone layer, contribute to air pollution and global warming, waste a lot of resources, and produce tons upon tons of space debris.

We should be careful with this industry and technology, and use it when it makes sense. But hey, why not launch billionaires and their cars into space for leisure and launch hundreds of satellites under different brandings all promising the best Internet ever or whatnot.

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phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

we should be careful with…

Yeaaahhh, you’re talking to humanity here

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- chellomere@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yeah what about the economy? /s
  
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- Allero@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yep, and I understand how little this message changes in the world
  
  But at least it’s good to highlight the basics to ensure people understand the dangers and shortcomings
  
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ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Yes, but in today’s geopolitical landscape, some countries would tie the allowance of such launches to weird requests.

Israel denies the launch of European rockets, until support for Palestine is outlawed as “antisemitism”, and pledge to donate weapons to IDF for free.

Russia doesn’t allow rocket launches to other countries as long as said countries not outlaw “Russophobia”, which includes “recognition of Ukraine, the Ukrainian language, and Ukrainian people, as separate from Russia in any way of form”.

China demands the returning of its political refugees, or they will not allow rocket launches.

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- Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Why the fuck would Israel be allowed anywhere near anything internationally, other the criminal courts that is.
  
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  - ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    They cry antisemitism, then the Seven Mountain Mandate people cry antisemitism, yadda yadda yadda…
    
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vollkorntomate@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Plus all the space debris (like hundreds of Starlink satellites) burning up in the atmosphere. Without searching for sources, I’m pretty confident that this isn’t good for the atmosphere either

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- RangerAndTheCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Kessler syndrome anchors chat Don’t worry I will fix it ～(つˆ0ˆ)つ｡☆
  
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Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I’d argue we need to advance spaceflight technology at as fast a pace as possible. Yes it does add CO2 to the atmosphere, but we’ve also gained some great advances through our exploration of space.

We’re doing a lot of things wrong on this planet, a whole fucking lot. But rocketry is one of the few things we’re starting to do right and the bottom line is this, the situation on earth is not great, and it could get worse. Ultimately, the situation on earth will get a lot worse when a huge, life ending, continent obliterating asteroid hits the planet (and not if it hits earth, but when it hits earth). We should absolutely continue living on earth and striving to make it a good place to live, but we also, desperately need to get a foothold off of earth. When the next global calamity occurs (and it will), I would prefer if it didn’t end all known intelligent life in the galaxy.

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- Allero@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  To me, there are two reasons we’re doing it too soon;
  
  We don’t really have technology needed to build a self-sustaining colony anywhere outside Earth; say, a colony on Mars is inherently dependent on Earth’s supplies, and will quickly die out as Earth does too; the technologies needed can largely be developed on Earth;
  
  The chance of some asteroid obliterating Earth in the coming millenia is so minor we might as well focus on much more real threats.
  
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  - jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Yeah, every time I see someone say go to Mars as an answer to the earth getting ruined, have to keep in mind that Mars is pre ruined, and whatever calamity that ruins earth will be easier to survive than colonizing Mars
    
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    Allero@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Exactly
    
    Or those “terraform Mars” fantasies
    
    TERRAFORM THE DAMN EARTH FIRST
    
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  - CybranM@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    It’s not a zero sum game. I’d rather keep space research going to lower the risk as fast as we can. If you want to focus on the climate then we should end fast fashion which is much much worse for the environment. Also, space colonies are a chicken and egg problem, you cant just wait until the tech magically appears, you have to spend money inventing it. [Insert famous JFK quote about going to the moon here]
    
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