Comment on Password manager by Amazon
kadup@lemmy.world 1 day agoI’m going back to paper for most things and I don’t know man, I think it’s more user friendly given the current tech landscape. My paper notebook never changed the interface to add a huge Copilot button.
“For most things”? Like written notes are whatever, if you don’t mind carrying it around with you everywhere you go and hoping it doesn’t rain. But definitely do not put your passwords in there…
Modern password managers are super inexpensive, easy to use, and essential security tools. You can’t store your passkeys or TOTP in your notebook either.
if you don’t mind carrying it around with you everywhere
I doubt the target demographic for a paper password notebook is logging into their accounts everywhere, as if that’s some common ocurrence.
and hoping it doesn’t rain
Ah yes, famously, before the invention of laptops universities and schools didn’t work on every single rainy day, because paper notebooks and books are impossible to keep dry. As a matter of fact, the UK never had an educational system before the digital age for this very reason, it’s so sad.
You can’t store your passkeys or TOTP in your notebook either.
You shouldn’t store 2FA and recovery codes on your password manager. They offer the feature as a competitive selling point, but the entire point of having 2FA is avoiding single point of failures.
paper notebooks and books are impossible to keep dry
Not impossible but shit happens. Used to happen to me all the time. I used to walk/bike everywhere.
but the entire point of having 2FA is avoiding single point of failures.
Your password manager is not usually the point of failure, it’s almost always the provider.
You’re not wrong, I just can’t be arsed to manage 2 separate password managers.
You’re not wrong either, I just think we are talking about two very different kinds of user here, and they have different levels of challenge and convenience to balance
and hoping it doesn’t rain
Some papers resist water and are not crazy expensive. If its a notebooksl you are going to carry everywhere I guess it could be a good buy.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Neither did my laptop, desktop, or phone. I use Linux and GrapheneOS, so I don’t deal with most of the nonsense people have been complaining about.
kadup@lemmy.world 1 day ago
GrapheneOS is a significantly more complicated and less accessible option for most users compared to a simple paper notebook, which is the context of this post.
But if you want to go this deep, then yes, maybe your phone using your custom OS never introduced Gemini or Copilot without your will. It is however running a Qualcomm modem firmware you can’t control and is phoning home, regardless of your GrapheneOS settings, with your GPS coordinates and other data you can’t read, at any time. Don’t worry, with tech we can always find a malicious feature that works against the user, regardless of how deep you want to dive.
NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 22 hours ago
Can you expand upon this?
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Sure, there are always things you can’t control in a mobile phone because modem manufacturers don’t like to give up that control (and I’m sure there are regulatory concerns as well).
My point is that if you don’t want Gemini, Copilot or whatever, you can make choices to avoid them. Each choice has consequences, and some just reveal issues you had ignored up to that point (e.g. your modem issue).
But why not a paper notebook? For me:
I use Bitwarden, which gives me a lot of convenience, allows me to self-host and iwny data, and encourages me to use really strong passwords.