I feel people suffer more with life in prison, because I hope most of the will come to a realization of what they did and have to suffer. Too bad there’s no hard labor.
Death penalty seems like a fair sentence for a piece of shit like him
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Too bad there’s no hard labor.
This is how you give governments and corporations an incentive for slavery. The USA has this, as well as the largest prison population on earth.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Happy cake day!
appetizer@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Fuck suffering. The system should be focused first on rehabilitation and second on seperating the person from society so they can’t harm others.
The infliction of suffering does nothing to help society at all. It just creates horribly broken people in prisons and encouraging hate outside.
If someone can’t be rehabilitated I see no issue in providing a comfortable isolated environment for them. Hell, give them whatever drugs they want too, who cares, just keep them away from society.
Salvo@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Laws do not exist to punish the guilty, or provide retribution for victims. They are there to create a baseline of acceptable behaviour.
The old adage “the punishment should fit the crime” applies here. The object is to make the criminal remorseful and to understand that violating the law has consequences.
The death penalty does act as a deterrent, (for other people as well), as does Exile (transportation for stealing a load of bread). A sentence of life in prison does not act as a deterrent, nor does a pittance of a fine.
Having to pay restitution to the victim (lost income due to disability or loss of a breadwinner; pain and suffering) will have an effect for those who can afford it.
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
So you’d want to pay for their upkeep. You do that, I’m not giving one cent for pieces of shit that don’t deserve an another chance
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Luckily for us, most of society (in Australia, at least) disagrees with you.
The death penalty is barbaric, and has had many, many, many cases of being committed on innocent people in the US.
The justice system isn’t omnipotent, it’s just humans, afterall. Why yes, let’s make the consequence for getting it wrong death, that seems logical /s
This guy is a piece of shit, and in my opinion deserves more than 6 years of prison and a lifetime ban on operating any motor vehicle (or any heavy machinery full stop), but killing him?
This isn’t Gilead, and eye for an eye is not most Australians values.
Part of living in a society is paying taxes, and some of those taxes will go to things you don’t personally like, but society does (corruption, lobbying and inefficient notwithstanding).
And society has decided we’re living in 2025, not the middle ages. We don’t kill people. We aspire to giving people a second chance. In the grand scheme of things, prisons represent a tiny fraction of Australia’s budget.
I’d say it’s totally worth it if it means people’s family members aren’t being killed for doing something illegal.
There are some cases where the person is question is irredeemable, but I see this as the “cost of doing business” so to speak.
It’s the same reason we have innocent until proven guilty, better to let some guilty people walk free than lock up innocent people. And better to let some awful people live, rather than accidentally kill someone who doesn’t deserve it.
There’s a reason most civilised countries don’t have the death penalty anymore.
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You think a piece of shit like that will ever reintegrate? They sent tens of texts while driving, kill them and kill them now. Are you ready to have one of your family be killed by a texting driver?
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Just fyi, if cost is your concern, it costs more to give someone the death penalty than life in gaol.
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s literally one less mouth to feed and house. Would you be ready to be the next victim of a reckless driver? Maybe you could give them food and shelter, I really hope no tax dollars go to the upkeep of a manslaughterer
Taleya@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
nah. Make him ride a toddler’s push scooter. No more license. Only push scooters. Show everyone what a big boy he is
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Jesus fluffing christ mate, calm down.
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“Ohhhh calm down, they only killed someone!” That’s what you sound like. Would you be ready to be the next victim of a reckless driver? If not, shut the fuck up, apologist
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I’m not apologising for shit, I just don’t believe in the fluffing death penalty. I do firmly believe that perpetrators of vehicular manslaughter should never be able to hold a license again as part of their sentence, so that kinda solves your hypothetical.
DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Many criminals still drive even without a licence. Taking someone’s licence does not always solve the problem.
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You can say “fuck” here. You don’t need to puss out on that. But, you’re pussing out on actually punishing blatant disregard for human life so I’m not holding my breath for that. If you want to have manslaughterers released to live amongst decent people you better not cry if you get disabled by a reckless driver