Death penalty seems like a fair sentence for a piece of shit like him
Greyghoster@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
6 years doesn’t seem like much. The article says that this joker is a big time serial offender.
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Jesus fluffing christ mate, calm down.
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“Ohhhh calm down, they only killed someone!” That’s what you sound like. Would you be ready to be the next victim of a reckless driver? If not, shut the fuck up, apologist
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I’m not apologising for shit, I just don’t believe in the fluffing death penalty. I do firmly believe that perpetrators of vehicular manslaughter should never be able to hold a license again as part of their sentence, so that kinda solves your hypothetical.
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I feel people suffer more with life in prison, because I hope most of the will come to a realization of what they did and have to suffer. Too bad there’s no hard labor.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Too bad there’s no hard labor.
This is how you give governments and corporations an incentive for slavery. The USA has this, as well as the largest prison population on earth.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Happy cake day!
appetizer@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Fuck suffering. The system should be focused first on rehabilitation and second on seperating the person from society so they can’t harm others.
The infliction of suffering does nothing to help society at all. It just creates horribly broken people in prisons and encouraging hate outside.
If someone can’t be rehabilitated I see no issue in providing a comfortable isolated environment for them. Hell, give them whatever drugs they want too, who cares, just keep them away from society.
Salvo@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Laws do not exist to punish the guilty, or provide retribution for victims. They are there to create a baseline of acceptable behaviour.
The old adage “the punishment should fit the crime” applies here. The object is to make the criminal remorseful and to understand that violating the law has consequences.
The death penalty does act as a deterrent, (for other people as well), as does Exile (transportation for stealing a load of bread). A sentence of life in prison does not act as a deterrent, nor does a pittance of a fine.
Having to pay restitution to the victim (lost income due to disability or loss of a breadwinner; pain and suffering) will have an effect for those who can afford it.
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
So you’d want to pay for their upkeep. You do that, I’m not giving one cent for pieces of shit that don’t deserve an another chance
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Luckily for us, most of society (in Australia, at least) disagrees with you.
The death penalty is barbaric, and has had many, many, many cases of being committed on innocent people in the US.
The justice system isn’t omnipotent, it’s just humans, afterall. Why yes, let’s make the consequence for getting it wrong death, that seems logical /s
This guy is a piece of shit, and in my opinion deserves more than 6 years of prison and a lifetime ban on operating any motor vehicle (or any heavy machinery full stop), but killing him?
This isn’t Gilead, and eye for an eye is not most Australians values.
Part of living in a society is paying taxes, and some of those taxes will go to things you don’t personally like, but society does (corruption, lobbying and inefficient notwithstanding).
And society has decided we’re living in 2025, not the middle ages. We don’t kill people. We aspire to giving people a second chance. In the grand scheme of things, prisons represent a tiny fraction of Australia’s budget.
I’d say it’s totally worth it if it means people’s family members aren’t being killed for doing something illegal.
There are some cases where the person is question is irredeemable, but I see this as the “cost of doing business” so to speak.
It’s the same reason we have innocent until proven guilty, better to let some guilty people walk free than lock up innocent people. And better to let some awful people live, rather than accidentally kill someone who doesn’t deserve it.
There’s a reason most civilised countries don’t have the death penalty anymore.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Just fyi, if cost is your concern, it costs more to give someone the death penalty than life in gaol.
Taleya@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
nah. Make him ride a toddler’s push scooter. No more license. Only push scooters. Show everyone what a big boy he is
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
He’s lucky to have gotten anything. Usually you can kill people in a car and get away without any charge.
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Based !fuckcars@lemmy.world enjoyer?
May I also interest you in: …org.au/…/revised-standard-recommends-larger-park…
Luckily, they got massive backlash, and haven’t yet actually updated the standard after almost 2 years since.
I’m gonna be really angry if they do increase parking bay sizes.
Gotta love urban sprawl
psud@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
A lawyer in Canberra killed a cyclist by driving too fast on an exit ramp and missing the road on three inside of the curve where the cycle lane is and where a cyclist was.
He was speeding, was likely drunk as he neither sought help for the cyclist nor turned himself in for several hours after the collision. All in all he was about the worst case of recklessly injuring someone and carelessly leaving them to die
He was fined a twenty thousandth of his salary
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
If we’re talking about Canberra, wait 'til you hear about Mike Hall. His killer didn’t face any punishment despite driving an unroadworthy vehicle and obviously not paying attention, to be able to not notice a cyclist in reflective clothing on a straight wide road. He was also probably speeding, but police used an outdated method of estimating speed which declared he wasn’t speeding.
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
☹️ this does not spark joy
As much as we’re not the US, it saddens me how much we permit cars to rule over our cities
Salvo@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
They should have dedicated truck parking. Have all these fuckers with body image issues all park together away from the normal people.
Let them have their 3495kg vehicles, but have them park with all the other legitimate trucks and make them walk the extra distance to the shops.
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
I vote we don’t do that because it’s taking up valuable space that creates urban sprawl. We already have dedicated truck parking (as in, actual trucks, not oversized utes & SUVs) in places where they’re needed for deliveries.
Utes have fit in regular parking spots for decades. We should just say - no, these oversize utes/SUVs just can’t be bought.
Have you ever wondered why you even need a car to pop to the shops?
Because we’ve designed our cities around cars. (Unless you live in the CBD or other dense pockets in this country where you can literally just go downstairs. Weekly shop? What’s that?).
Let’s not have them park anywhere (in my opinion).
Make them buy a real vehicle, not one for emotional support.