Comment on Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share In USA

jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  ChromeOS is going to the Google graveyard, to be replaced by android

  (Maybe this is a good thing as Chromebooks have an expiration date averaging 3-5 years where they stop getting Chrome updates, when if it’s android can get updates to the browser for a much longer time AND have Firefox as default)

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  • unixcat@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Android is also Linux though

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  • kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have an old Chromebook that I used for D&D sessions that is now collecting dust because they stopped supporting the model and use security hardware to prevent overwriting the drive that I have neither the tools or skills to circumvent.

    Google can blow me where the pampers is.

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  • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well yes, but Android now has a Debian container option. If they expose some Wayland/X interface to it for displaying stuff on Android, for a load of stuff, maybe that is good enough for a lot of stuff?

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• Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Linux as an OS is generally meant as desktop Linux, mostly following freedesktop guidelines, which has traditionally helped standards on Linux a lot. So for instance XFCE/Gnome/KDE desktop apps can be run in all the different desktop environments. Also standardizing things like how tray icons work. Freedesktop is part of X.Org Foundation, and Chrome OS does not use X.org standards at all.

  So while Chrome OS is based on the Linux kernel, it is NOT a Linux OS in the original sense, a term that became popular decades before Chrome OS or Android became a thing.

  If you include Chrome OS you might as well include Android too. As it can run on for instance Raspberry Pi and other mini systems, and could be used as a desktop system.

  Chrome OS is a Linux kernel based OS, and not much more than that.
  It’s somewhat confusing in some situations that Linux as a desktop OS doesn’t have a unique name, but it wasn’t a problem originally, as what some prefer to call GNU/Linux was made 100% for desktop use originally.

  The Linux kernel is way way more widespread and successful than what we usually term Desktop Linux or GNU/Linux.

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  • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This isn’t entirely right because Chrome OS is using a lot more of normal desktop Linux than Android does, which basically uses none.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromeOS

    Android is this completely different thing (built round OpenBinder) that ended up using the Linux kernel for good hardware support. It’s basically got nothing to do with desktop Linux, bar needed it to actually build Android. You can argue that Google basically tried forking Linux for Binder and control.

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh so you can install KDE/Gnome/XFCE apps on Chrome OS and they will work?
      You know the “desktop” in Desktop Linux means it goes beyond terminal commands right?

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      • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes you can, but they are actually in a LXC container with Wayland/X from outside (I think it is also in a KVM/QEmu). (Interesting project : chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/…/README.md)

        If you look at the architecture it looks more normal than Android.

        www.chromium.org/…/software-architecture/

        Others note this:

        aboutchromebooks.com/now-more-than-ever-chromeos-…

        It’s made of lots of FOSS, but it is a dystopian version of a Linux desktop.

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