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Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• housewife@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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  • Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I find English pronunciation very irregular (not phonetic). So reading is hard.

    Most people, when learning to read, don’t care about pronunciation at all. Like why would they? Here is the word. Who cares how it is pronounced if you see it clearly and know its meaning?

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    • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Do you not hear the words in your head while reading?

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      • Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Sometimes I do. But it doesn’t help me or stop me from understanding the word. Completely irrelevant parallel process. Especially in English. In my native language we have a strict bijection between letters and sounds, so pronunciation is trivial.

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    • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      When English-speaking kids are taught to read, it’s very much an out-loud process, and covers the various pronunciation of all the letters sounds. “Sound it out” is the first step in decoding written words. Then of course there’s using context clues to figure out what word you’ve heard before could be spelled using those letters’ possible sounds. And it’s not until later, once all the common rules and exceptions of pronunciation are automatic, that you start “reading to learn” and attempt words you’ve never heard before.

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      • Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I talk about how grown-up people study a foreign language.

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  • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Tbf, you’re not wrong about the inconsistency of English, it’s because we stole words, phrases, entire dialects from so many sources. And sometimes we kept the original pronunciation, other times we rudely imposed our phonetic expectations of the time and place when we stole them. Also the “correct” pronunciation for many words is different in different English-speaking countries.

    On the plus side for you, that means most people are pretty lenient about what we consider “fluent,” and make allowances for accent. Unless they’re a racist asshole in the first place. When you mispronounce a word because you’re following phonetic rules but that word breaks them, most of us can recognize that version because we did the same thing when learning to read.

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