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Comment on YSK that apart from not having a car, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat

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commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

you are saying this in english, to a (self-)selected demographic subset of english speakers. you are encouraging a particular set of people not to have children. that’s eugenics. unless you can find a way to convey this message to everyone, at once, in an identical message given cultural and other contexts, you will be biasing the message to be more effective among some segment of the populous.

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RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
We’ve done it. We’ve finally found the Olympic Gold Medalist for Mental Gymnastics.

Congratulations.

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- commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  this is a thought-terminating cliche. what i said is true.
  
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  - Senal@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Stating something is true with no supporting argument other than “I said so” followed by some shaky(at best) logic doesn’t leave much in the way of conversation points.
    
    But lets give it a go.
    
    Firstly there was no demand or proposal for any demographic to partake in the activity mentioned.
    
    Secondly, assuming the first point wasn’t true, by your rationale there would be no way to mention any activity without it being a suggestion that all current recipients must immediately perform said activity, which it patently ridiculous.
    
    Thirdly, the suggestion that you are a best in class mental gymnast isn’t a thought terminating cliche, perhaps you could claim ad hominem but as I said before ,“I’m right, because reasons” doesn’t leave many conversational avenues open.
    
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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    the suggestion that you are a best in class mental gymnast isn’t a thought terminating cliche
    
    it is, and saying it isn’t doesn’t change that.
    
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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    by your rationale there would be no way to mention any activity without it being a suggestion that all current recipients must immediately perform said activity,
    
    they are advocating for a set of actions. not simply mentioning them.
    
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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    Stating something is true with no supporting argument other than “I said so” followed by some shaky(at best) logic doesn’t leave much in the way of conversation points.
    
    that’s not what happened. what i said were all truth claims. you can decide whether i was wrong about any of them (i’m not), but no argument at all is needed.
    
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BussyCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
So are you interpreting the comment as only people who speak English should not have kids?

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- commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  only people who speak english can read that comment. they are only talking to english-literate people.
  
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  - BussyCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    That was not my question. Do you think the OP meant that only people who speak English should not have kids?
    
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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    no. i don’t think that. but i think the propaganda they’ve produced can only have that effect.
    
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AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Sorry buddy, that isn’t how this works. Great try tho. Go back to the whiteboard and come back when you have valuable input to share.

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