I don’t think Musk or Trump have any charisma, but apparently a lot of people see (inherited) wealth as charisma.
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thejml@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks agoSure, but Elon isn’t charismatic in the slightest.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
rigatti@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Kind of disingenuous to say that. He has some sort of weird nerd charisma. Prior to him revealing how much of an asshole he is, he had way more people that thought he was cool, myself included.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Trump has always been a petty shithead loser. He was mocked back in the 80s for being creepy around women, running failed businesses, and not paying his contractors.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Yet he has charisma for a certain demographic.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah, morons. Just like Musk.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
It’s pretty easy to grab the attention of dumb racist turds just by being a dumb racist turd with a lot of media attention. The surprising part was just how many of these termites were hidden in the woodwork.
thejml@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I think the IDEA of Elon back then was charismatic and energizing. He was seen pushing space flight and EV’s forward into the future. Watching a video stream of the first Falcon flight to land the booster back on Earth was exciting. The fact that their stream was on the internet and full of interesting detailed real time telemetry and video was something new and different and felt like the future.
But watching Elon the man talk and stumble through even early interviews and press conferences was not, and to this day, I find it painful to watch. A great orator he is not. But then neither is Trump, I suppose.
Eldritch@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
No it isn't.
https://images.wsj.net/im-525185/portrait?pixel_ratio=2 It's a you thing of you thought he was some awkward autistic rizz master.
At one point it was possible to not be paying attention. Getting distracted by the smoke screen etc. But even the most basic look into him and his history. No one would ever mistake him for someone with charisma or talent.
rigatti@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I would argue that the charisma is what allows him to fool people and put up that smoke screen, and you can’t argue that many have not been fooled.
Eldritch@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Unless you consider money charisma. I really can't agree with you or understand where you're coming from. Anyone who's ever known the man as a peer or personally pretty much universally hates him for good reason. Including his Ex-Wives, his father, even his children, and that ghoul Peter Thiel.
People liked the concept of boosted Space travel, Electric vehicles, etc. Musk was smart to invest in them. But he had no contribution of note to any of those companies other than his money. No one ever cared for musk anymore than that. And then once his erol-ness was on full display finally the people who had been fooled had to acknowledge reality.