Comment on NVIDIA is full of shit

• Naz@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have overclocked my AMD 7900XTX as far as it will go on air alone.

  Undervolted every step on the frequency curve, cranked up the power, 100% fan duty cycles.

  At it’s absolute best, it’s competitive or trades blows with the 4090D, and is 6% slower than the RTX 4090 Founder’s Edition (the slowest of the stock 4090 lineup).

  The fastest AMD card is equivalent to a 4080 Super, and the next gen hasn’t shown anything new.

  AMD needs a 5090-killer. Dual socket or whatever monstrosity which pulls 800W, but it needs to slap that greenbo with at least a 20-50% lead in frame rates across all titles, including raytraced. Then we’ll see some serious price cuts and competition.

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  • bilb@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And/or Intel. (I can dream, right?)

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• Pirate@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why do you even need those graphics cards for?

  Even the best games don’t require those and if they did, I wouldn’t be interested in them, especially if it’s an online game.

  Probably only a couple people would be playing said game with me.

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• Chronographs@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s exactly it, they have no competition at the high end

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• just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Because they choose not to go full idiot though. They could make their top-line cards to compete if they slam enough into a pipeline and require a dedicated PSU to compete, but that’s not where their product line intends to go. That’s why it’s smart.

  For reference: AMD has the most deployed GPUs on the planet as of right now. There’s a reason why it’s in every gaming console except Switch 1/2, and why OpenAI just partnered with them for chips. The goal shouldn’t just making a product that churns out results at the cost of everything else does, but to be cost-effective and efficient. Nvidia fails at that on every level.

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  • ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Unfortunately, this partnership with OpenAI means they’ve sided with evil and I won’t spend a cent on their products anymore.

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    • IronKrill@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      enjoy never usimg a computer again i guess?

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      • ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh so you support grifting off the public domain? Maybe grow some balls instead of taking the status quo for granted.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Then why does Nvidia have so much more money?

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    • iopq@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because of vendor lock in

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    • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      See the title of this very post you’re responding to. No, I’m not OP lolz

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They have so much money because they’re full of shit? Doesn’t make much sense.

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      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        He’s not OP. He’s just another person…

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  • eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    this openai partnership really stands out, because the server world is dominated by nvidia, even more than in consumer cards.

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    • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Actually…not true. Nvidia recently became bigger in the DC because of their terrible inference cards being bought up, but AMD overtook Intel on chips with all major cloud platforms last year, and their Xilinix chips are slowly overtaking the sales of regular CPUs for special purposes processing. By the end of this year, I bet AMD will be the most deployed brand in datacenters globally. FPGA is the only path forward in the architecture world at this point for speed and efficiency in single-purpose processing. Nvidia doesn’t have a competing product.

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      • eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        we’re talking GPUs, idk why you’re bringing FPGA and CPUs in the mix

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    • SheeEttin@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yup. You want a server? Dell just plain doesn’t offer anything but Nvidia cards. You want to build your own? The GPGPU stuff like zluda is brand new and not really supported by anyone. You want to participate in the development community, you buy Nvidia and use CUDA.

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      • eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I helped raise requirements for two servers recently, an alternative to nvidia wasn’t even on the table

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