Comment on In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.

• novibe@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Israel =/= the “Jews”.

  Israel’s founders were actually very prejudiced against Jews that survived the holocaust. And much more against the ones that didn’t actually…

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  • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Louder for the people in the back!

    Zionists = religious nationalists / colonialists / fascists

    Anti-zionists = anti-all-of-the-above

    The Jewish ethnic/religious part is completely irrelevant. There are many thousands of non-jews who support Israel’s genocide, as evidenced by this batshit draconian illegitimate law.

    If you just hate jews you’re some flavor of fascist or religious nationalist, so no better than zionists.

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• timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What Israel is doing is very much Nazi like. But saying such will get you banned on Mastodon.social, and probably prosecuted in places like Germany.

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• DogWater@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Do not conflate Jewish people with Israel

  That is a very important distinction

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  • Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I guess I am ignorant in that respect. When I was taught back in the 60’s it was taught as the Jewish people and all dissidents, disabled and whoever else the nazi’s wanted out of the way.

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    • DogWater@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I said what I did because in today’s world the labeling matters between Jewish people and zionists. Not because of anything that happened in WWII, but rather because you can condemn what the people in Israel are doing in Palestine and it has nothing to do with their faith.

      However, there are people who will call you anti semetic for doing that and it’s just not true.

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• Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah, nah.

  The only people who win when you conflate Israel with all Jewish people are Zionists and Neo-Nazis.

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• 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I was brought up to feel for what happened to the Jews during that war.

  And neglected to mention that it wasn’t just jews but anyone the nazis didn’t like, such as gays, communists, other races, etc.

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  • Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I did not intentionally not mention them. I was just talking about them because they were the specific topic of discussion. Of course there were others.

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  • kntmonmostro@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Gipsies, catholics, trans people, liberals, socialists, nationalists (for other nation than germany ofc), people suspected of spreading dissent, or just hostages taken as reprisal for resistances attack.

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