Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
I got it pretty bad being born in 1989 because of my ancestry, and I cannot imagine going through what my Dads generation went through. The only people I see taking this deal likely exist in a position of great privilege and excess because they are the only ones who may improve their conditions by going backwards.
lordnikon@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Yeah as someone with that privilege it would be cool to go back for nothing else to help with movements like civil rights or hell go back to reconstruction and do it right this time. Don’t let the losers stay in power this time.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
While this idea has good intentions, the “privileged savior” is a toxic one. It assumes that your help would be accepted, appreciated, and necessary to “do things right”. It also assumes that you wouldn’t fall in line with the majority for your own safety, which I am willing to bet is more likely than not given the measures taken against those who supported those movements.
lordnikon@lemmy.world 5 days ago
This is very true the idea would not be the savor but just a pair of hands to help. Also in this scenario remember I know the future so i could have a greater impact but just having that information. You also have to remember there were some white people that were icons in the civil rights movement. It was not about one race clawing it’s way up against another race. It was people of both races coming together against inequality and bigotry. If an ally is turned away just because they are white then it’s just a race war and the ownership class win.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
What can you do that would benefit a movement in the 1960’s?
What information do you have that could change any of the outcomes, how would that information change the outcome specifically, and why do you believe changing history wouldn’t negatively impact the progress of those movements?
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 days ago
So, should they NOT be an ally for the marginalized?
Sure, there will always be toxic people virtue signaling for attention, but it’s not any less toxic to shame someone when they are legitimately trying to help.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
Show me where I said this.
This is about a very specific example, i.e. going back in time to “do it right this time”, and I can assert with a high degree of certainty that any random “privileged” person leaving our current time would not be up to the task of helping those causes.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Just gotta read 11 22 63 to see that