In general, even up here in woke-ville, punishments have gotten a lot more strict for kids. There’s a lot more involvement of police, courts, jail. As a parent it causes me a lot of anxiety - whatever happened to school being a “sandbox” where a kid can make mistakes without adult consequences, without ruining their lives? Did that ever exist?
Comment on Kids are making deepfakes of each other, and laws aren’t keeping up
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
For example, Louisiana mandates a minimum five-year jail sentence no matter the age of the perpetrator.
That’s just on it’s face stupid. A thirteen year old boy is absolutely gonna wanna see girls in his age group naked. That’s not pedophilia. It’s wanting to see the girls he fantasizes about at school every day. Source: I was a thirteen year old boy.
It shouldn’t be treated the same as when an adult man generates it; there should be nuance. I’m not saying it’s ok for a thirteen year old to generate said content: I’m saying tailor the punishment to fit the reality of the differences in motivations. Leave it to Louisiana to once again use a cudgel rather than sense.
I’m so glad I went through puberty at a time when this kind of shit wasn’t available. The thirteen year old version of me would absolutely have got myself in a lot of trouble. And depending on what state I was in, seventeen year old me could have ended listed as a sex predetor for sending dick pics to my gf cause I produced child pornography. God, some states have stupid laws.
AA5B@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
it existed if society liked you enough.
fascists just have a habit of tightening that belt smaller and smaller, is what’s going on.
BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I can already picture that as an Onion headline: New York Renames State to ‘WokeVille’
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Punishment for an adult man doing this: Prison
Punishment for a 13 year old by doing this: Publish his browsing and search history in the school newsletter.
GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
13 year old: “I’ll just take the death penalty, thanks."
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I don’t disagree with this assessment.
seralth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
And what about the life of the girl this boy would have ruined?
This is not “boys will be boys” shit. Girls have killed themselves over this kind of thing (I have personal experience with suicidal teenage girls, both as a past friend and as a father).
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect an equivalent punishment that has the potential to ruin his life.
DancingBear@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Fake pictures do not ruin your life… sorry…
Our puritanical / 100% sex culture is the problem, not fake pictures…
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
It is not abnormal to see different punishment for people under the age of 18. Good education about sex and what sexual assault does with their victims (same with guns, drugs including alcohol etc).
You can still course correct the behaviour of a 13 year old. There is also a difference between generating the porn and abusing it by sharing it etc.
The girls should be helped and the boys should be punished, but mainly their behaviour needs to be correcte
jjlinux@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Parents are responsible for their kids. The punishment, with the full force of the law, should fall upon the parents, since they should have made sure their kids knew how despicable and illegal doing this is.
Yeah, I agree, we shouldn’t ruin the boys life, we should ruins his whole family to many times the extent something like this ruins a teen girl’s life.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Yes, absolutely. But with recognition that a thirteen year old kid isn’t a predator but a horny little kid. I’ll let others determine what that punishment is, but I don’t believe it’s prison. Community service maybe. Written apology. Stuff like that. Second offense, ok, we’re ratcheting up the punishment, but still not adult prison.
tomenzgg@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
In a properly functioning world, this could easily be coupled with particular education on power dynamics and a lesson on consent, giving proper attention to why this might be more harmful to get than to him.
Of course, – so long as we’re in this hypothetical world – you’d just have that kind of education be a part of sex ed. or the like for all students, to begin with, but, as we’re in this world and that’s Louisiana…
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I did say equitable punishment. Equivalent. Whatever.
A written apology is a cop-out for the damage this behaviour leaves behind.
Something tells me you don’t have teenage daughters.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
No kids. That’s why I say others should write the punishments. A written apology wasn’t meant as the only punishment. It was in addition to community service and other stipulations.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
written apology? they’ll just use chatgpt for that