Comment on Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

• Auth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yes if they’ve lasted decades thats their job done. Now people are buying usb C headphones and there is no need to continue to support decades old standards. The ewaste from a pair of headphones is tiny so its not worth fretting over.

  Also BT headphones last longer than 2 years. Mine are 1st gen samsung buds and going on 5 years at this point and still hold enough charge to listen to music during my work day. If im going to be using them all day I have 1 in and 1 charging in the case and then I can easily have music for 10+ hours on a 5 year old device. If I threw them away today I would consider them to have not been ewaste.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yes if they’ve lasted decades thats their job done

    No it means they’ll essentially last indefinitely, unlike BT buds.

    Now people are buying usb C headphones and there is no need to continue to support decades old standards

    No, what’s happened is that we went from a single open standard for audio jacks to competing standards. And gained nothing in the process.

    The ewaste from a pair of headphones is tiny so its not worth fretting over.

    It’s not a pair of headphones, it’s millions of audio devices.

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• Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Problem is BT headphones last 2 years then they go in the garbage because the batteries are dead. How eco-friendly is that!?

  My 7 years old bluetooth headphone would disagree.

  It is. We had it on phones since before the original iPhone. No one wants to take that away.

  And no one except a vocal minority want to keep it. There are a lot on data on that, and manufacturer make their decision on that data.

  But lets ignore that, and let’s take my viewpoint as a customer. I don’t want a port I have no use for. I don’t want a DAC I have no use for. I don’t want the extra weight that comes with them.

  My needs conflict with yours, so what’s the only way to make both of us somewhat happy? That’s by making the 3.5mm jack an addon, which is what any manufacturer that does not focus on music listening would do.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And no one except a vocal minority want to keep it. There are a lot on data on that,

    I would love to see the data that says everyone wants wired devices only. I don’t believe you.

    don’t want a port I have no use for.

    Why would you even care!?

    I don’t want the extra weight that comes with them.

    😆 Buddy if you don’t want extra weight you need to talk to these OEMs about making their phones out of giant slabs of glass. A 1g connector isn’t going to make a difference. You’re being completely ridiculous.

    My needs conflict with yours,

    No they don’t. They can meet both of our needs by including a jack. Simple as.

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m voluntarily exagerating my point here for irony sake.

      My needs do isn’t more important than anyone else, but I wanted to point out the selfishness of the oposite point of view by making mine as selfish. Those in favor of keeping a jack port voluntarily choose to ignore any alternative, while trying to force their need on other people.

      But it is true I do not want that port back. It is redundant, has no advantages over a dongle, and it inconveniences could easily be overcome by simply adding a second usb-c port. No need for internal DAC, you’d be able to do far more than you’ll ever be able to do with a 3.5mm jack, and you’ll be able to charge it while listening to your music with a wired headphone. All that with a smaller and more flexible port.

      And it would take you 5min searching the web to get good review about usbc DAC with actually good sound, even better than any internal DAC.

      But to save you a click, you have the Apple one, which has good review while being able to drive almost all headphones but the most energy intensive of them.

      As for the precise number, you can find them on market studies. Unfortunately they are quite pricy, and as I’m not in that field, I do not have access to them. But Fairphone does, and if they don’t bother adding that port back, they are most probably basing their decision on them.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My needs isn’t more important than anyone else, but I wanted to point out the selfishness of the oposite point of view by making mine as selfish.

        There’s nothing selfish here. Keeping the jack benefits everyone except Apple and other BT headphone OEMs. It doesn’t hurt anyone else.

        has no advantages over a dongle

        The advantage is that you don’t need a dongle…

        and it inconveniences

        There are none

        could easily be overcome by simply adding a second usb-c port

        Still requires carrying a dongle or buying a pair of headphones that only works with phones and computers, and not the vast array of other devices that still use headphone jacks, new and old. So that solves absolutely nothing. As I said elsewhere, we’ve created a competing standard, for no reason.

        you’d be able to do far more than you’ll ever be able to do with a 3.5mm jack

        What? Do you think we’re suggesting removing the USB port? What are you talking about?

        And it would take you 5min searching the web to get good review about usbc DAC with actually good sound, even better than any internal DAC.

        I don’t want to search the web. I don’t want a DAC. I just want to plug in my headphones. This is absurd.

        It cost a whopping… $10.

        $10 to buy something that previously cost me $0. Only it’s inevitably going to get lost so you’d better buy a half dozen of them and replace them every few years, so you’re looking at dozens of $ per year for something that was previously completely unnecessary.

        As for the precise number…I’m not in that field, I do not have access to them

        Yeah, I didn’t think so.

        and if they don’t bother adding that port back, they are most probably basing their decision on them.

        No, they’re basing that decision on the same thing everyone else is: money. Greed. Much like Apple they also released their own bluetooth headphones at the same time as they removed their headphone jack. But I suppose that’s just coincidence, right?

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• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You can use your dozen wired headphones you already have with a $10 usb-c -> 3.5mm adapter.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Tried that. Gets lost real fast.

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Tried taking better care of your things? I’ve still got mine that came with my pixel 3 and my iPhone 11 Pro.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Okay so now this is my fault. Do you know how many adapters I lost before I needed one?

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