While everyone else is paying the costs that come with environmental regulation china is exploiting it and getting celebrated for it. Its insane what a few dollars can do to change peoples minds on a topic.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 days ago
Nice I love seeing China Greenwashing get reposted. Remember that China is 3x the size of the EU so them having 3x the renewable power is a stupid comparison. China also continues to increase coal generation by more than renewables. China is only %27 renewables while the EU is 47%. China is 17% of the world and almost 40% of the emissions.
OECD countries are actually working on emission reduction instead of china which continue to increase emissions with absolute no signs of stopping. They have missed every single renewable target and goal they’re set. But dont worry im sure they will stop building more coal plants in 2030, im sure it wont be to late by then.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 days ago
AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 2 days ago
China is 17% of the world and almost 40% of the emissions.
Deceiving metrics. What percentage of world PPP GDP is China? China doesn’t pollute due to its population, it pollutes because it’s the industrial hub of the world. How comfortable of you to sit in your office and import Chinese products disregarding the effect of that in the pollution metrics of your country and China.
China is only %27 renewables while the EU is 47%
And how long did China take to develop? What are the cumulative CO2 emissions of China vs those of the US or Europe? Furthermore: where are the solar panels that Europe uses manufactured? Europe may have a blossoming wind industry, but photovoltaics are almost entirely Chinese.
What a chauvinistic and anti-Chinese point of view. BTW, you got completely proven wrong on China building more coal than renewables, you’re just spitting disinformation.
mattreb@feddit.it 3 days ago
tbh I’m surprised that you even got upvotes, didn’t went that well for me with a similar answer on another post…
Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 days ago
Yeah the .ml must have missed this thread.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 days ago
I don’t believe this:
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ember-energy.org/countries-and-regions/china/
Even if you add these 2 together and pretend they were finished the same year it’s not even close to:
theasialive.com/…/14/
I don’t believe this is true either unless you are referring to some other targets?
China’s solar capacity grew by an incredible 45.2% in 2024, adding 277 GW. Wind capacity also saw a strong increase of 18%, with an additional 80 GW installed. Overall, total power generation capacity rose by 14.6% in 2024, driven mainly by renewables.
carboncredits.com/chinas-renewable-energy-boom-a-…
Don’t worry, just like everything else in the near future that will flip with China having more renewables than the EU
You have plenty of money apparently to suddenly:
euronews.com/…/defence-spend-to-5-of-gdp-ukraine-…
…com.au/no-time-to-waste-huge-big-battery-plans-u…
On top of this energy prices in the EU are ridiculous and for some reason they still can’t get off the gas, so they have high energy prices and their companies and manufacturing are leaving them… to go to China…
aussie.zone/comment/17361559
But I appreciate your scepticism, especially for China, they are the worlds top producer of CO2 by FAR but I do want to address
This is something I’ve wanted for a while:
oecd.org/…/what-to-expect-from-the-eu-carbon-bord…
I’ve long disliked that places like the EU and the rest of the west can export their dirty manufacturing over to China where companies take advantage of lax or no environmental regulations, it’s a false economy and makes the west look a whole lot greener and cleaner than it should if we were manufacturing what we used back at home
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
New power plants don’t mean using those power plants. Resilience/backup power. Use of coal for electricity has declined despite new coal plants.