Comment on Last year China generated almost 3 times as much solar power as the EU did, and it's close to overtaking all OECD countries put together (whose combined population is 1.38 billion people)

• ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  How idiotic.

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  • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Do explain, I’m all ears.

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    • SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I think they don’t get that your comment is fighting the same fight by being pro solar & anti coal/gas, with the only difference being that your comment is also pro nuclear power.

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      • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No. We get exactly what his comment is about.

        If he was in the renewables camp, there would be no point, in this discussion over solar, to bring up nuclear. It’s absolutely unrelated.

        What he’s doing is pushing the thought into people’s heads that nuclear is a good solution, and that’s why I’m calling him out for. For being a shill.

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      • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yes, of course I’ve meant it in a positive way - a way to replace coal and gas. But solar is not just positive, they are problematic when you couple them with nuclear for the simple reasons that solar is not reliable and you can’t throttle nuclear - they are like big ships, they require a lot of time to steer. Furthermore solar energy low price causes problems for nuclear higher prices. Which wouldn’t be a problem if solar was reliable and continuous (long winter nights much?). But it’s not, but you still need a reliable energy source. And so on. The pro solar panel crowd don’t understand many of these implications and go with simple “idiotic” and downvotes.

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    • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      No. I type less.

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• FishFace@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Solar and nuclear work just fine together. Nuclear is expensive (and most cost effective if kept running all the time, rather than switched on and off) but it reduces the cost of solar (lower proportion of solar means you don’t need as much storage) and hedges against bad weather.

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  • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You can’t just switch it off and on. It runs at more or less full power all the time. So tell me, at what power is that taking into consideration that sun doesn’t shine during night + mornings and evenings when days are short or cloudy?

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    • FishFace@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I don’t understand what you’re asking, sorry.

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      • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The question is simple. If you have installed solar power of 40% your country peak use, how much nuclear power you need - assuming simplified you have only these two power sources.

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• tostiman@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Huh? No

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• catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  ???

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