Comment on Elon Musk wants to rewrite "the entire corpus of human knowledge" with Grok

Naevermix@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• why0y@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Uh, just a thought. Please pardon, I’m not an Elon shill, I just think your argument phrasing is off.

  How would you know there are holes in understanding, without logic. How would you remedy gaps of understanding in human knowledge, without the application of logic to find things are consistent?

  source

  • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You have to have data to apply your logic too.

    If it is raining, the sidewalk is wet. Does that mean if the sidewalk is wet, that it is raining?

    There are domains of human knowledge that we will never have data on. There’s no logical way for me to 100% determine what was in Abraham Lincoln’s pockets on the day he was shot.

    When you read real academic texts, you’ll notice that there is always the “this suggests that,” “we can speculate that,” etc etc. The real world is not straight math and binary logic.

    source

    • why0y@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Thanks I’ve never heard of data. And I’ve never read an academic text either. Condescending pos

      So, while I’m ironing out your logic for you, “what else would you rely on, if not logic, to prove or disprove and ascertain knowledge about gaps?”

      source

      • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You asked a question, I gave an answer. I’m not sure where you get “condescending” there. I was assuming you had read an academic text, so I was hoping that you might have seen those patterns before.

        You would look at the data for gaps, as my answer explained. You could use logic to predict some gaps, but not all gaps would be predictable. Mendeleev was able to use logic and patterns in the periodic table to predict the existence of germanium and other elements, which data confirmed, but you could not logically derive the existence of protons, electrons and neutrons without the later experimentations of say, JJ Thompson.

        You can’t just feed the sum of human knowledge into a computer and expect it to know everything. You can’t predict “unknown unknowns” with logic.

        source