Comment on Linus Torvalds and Bill Gates Meet for the First Time Ever

• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  He is not a good person. But the foundation has done some good work.

  seems like a justification to me dude. you’re literally justifying his indiscretions, that you even call out, by saying the charity he heads “has done some good work”.

  And I sure as hell don’t white wash Bill Gates. You don’t get to that level of wealth and dominance without cracking skulls and ruining lives every step of the way.

  I don’t know if you’re actually being misleading or confusing by accident but calling attention to it being “nuanced” is a clear indicator that your argument supports that the “ends justify the means”.

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s not justification. He is a person. It is a non-profit. The non-profit has vaccinated countess people, for instance. That is a good thing.

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      it’s a nonprofit he directly benefits from because it has his name on it. he directly benefits from it by using it as a way to sway political power. he directly benefits from it through financial gains paid through the organization.

      the entire concept of the foundation is contingent on his financial success. something of which he is well known for destroying lives for.

      so tell me, how many of those ruined lives were acceptable for the good that his charity does? how many more lives must be ruined for the good to continue to be acceptable? would you find it acceptable if your life was destroyed to continue the good his charity does? would you be willing to accept your life to be ruined or ended to support the continuation of his charity?

      I don’t understand why you don’t see the obvious correlation between the two so I’ll over simplify it.

      bad man makes bad money making people suffer. bad money makes good stuff happen under bad man name. bad man still bad man doing good stuff for bad reasons.

      you sit and justify his actions by arguing he’s doing good things. I question if he’s doing good things just to do them or if they’re a byproduct of him “cleansing” his name. after all, bad men do bad things. Ever heard of Alfred Nobel?

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      • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Dude ffs

        • Bill Gates is a bad person

        • The US has a corrupt charity structure

        • The B&MG Foundation has done some good work

        Please explain to me why these three statements are incompatible. Please explain to me how I have been whitewashing Bill Gates when I’m explicitly saying over and over again he is a bad person. Please explain to me how I have not acknowledged that nonprofits are often used for corrupt purposes.

        I do not understand how many ways I have to say this to get it through your incredibly thick skull.

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      • fernandofig@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        You’re being obtuse. The nuance here is that Bill Gates being.a bad person and his charity org having done some good in the world are facts that are not necessarily dependent on each other. That’s all. The fact that Gates might be using his org to prop his image is also a consequence of his character, and doesn’t take away from the good the charity has done. Or would you rather the charity didn’t exist at all just so your thirst for consistency would be appeased, all the while people would be dying?

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      • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Forget it, they’re out there thinking they’ll be the next one to “benefit” some million dollars from the billionaire table

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