When did I say the ends justified the means? I explicitly said that Bill Gates is a bad person. I don’t think you understand what that phrase means.
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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 21 hours agothe ends don’t justify the means.
Hitler experimented on hundreds of thousands of Jews and the medical world benefited from it greatly.
does that mean you’re going to nuance the Nazi regime because they “did some good”?
no amount of good is worth the ounce of evil used to make it.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 19 hours ago
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
He is not a good person. But the foundation has done some good work.
seems like a justification to me dude. you’re literally justifying his indiscretions, that you even call out, by saying the charity he heads “has done some good work”.
And I sure as hell don’t white wash Bill Gates. You don’t get to that level of wealth and dominance without cracking skulls and ruining lives every step of the way.
I don’t know if you’re actually being misleading or confusing by accident but calling attention to it being “nuanced” is a clear indicator that your argument supports that the “ends justify the means”.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
It’s not justification. He is a person. It is a non-profit. The non-profit has vaccinated countess people, for instance. That is a good thing.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
it’s a nonprofit he directly benefits from because it has his name on it. he directly benefits from it by using it as a way to sway political power. he directly benefits from it through financial gains paid through the organization.
the entire concept of the foundation is contingent on his financial success. something of which he is well known for destroying lives for.
so tell me, how many of those ruined lives were acceptable for the good that his charity does? how many more lives must be ruined for the good to continue to be acceptable? would you find it acceptable if your life was destroyed to continue the good his charity does? would you be willing to accept your life to be ruined or ended to support the continuation of his charity?
I don’t understand why you don’t see the obvious correlation between the two so I’ll over simplify it.
bad man makes bad money making people suffer. bad money makes good stuff happen under bad man name. bad man still bad man doing good stuff for bad reasons.
you sit and justify his actions by arguing he’s doing good things. I question if he’s doing good things just to do them or if they’re a byproduct of him “cleansing” his name. after all, bad men do bad things. Ever heard of Alfred Nobel?
Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
I hate billionaires as much as the next gal, but I think comparing Bill Gates to Hitler is a bit extreme
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Welcome to Lemmy, heh.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
I didn’t compare them, but in your mind you understood it that way.
I used Hitler as an example, an extreme one, but still an example of “the ends justify the means”.
could have use any number of examples, but I went with one I thought everyone could relate to. clearly I miscalculated the selfishness of modern day philosophies.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
You literally did compare them.