dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I await with interest your explanation as to how and why private gun ownership “caused and supported” the current unlawful government, considering that the government is perfectly capable of obtaining its own guns and supplying them to its goons without our input or intervention. And has been doing so for a little over two centuries. Furthermore, gun laws are deliberately structured such that the police and various government forces throughout the country enjoy considerably less restriction (or even none) on the type, number, and nature of guns that they’re allowed to own and use. Even if the individuals in question are retired or no longer on active duty.
I await with interest your explanation as to how and why private gun ownership “caused and supported” the current unlawful government
Dollars to Donuts half those badgeless, masked vigilantes kidnapping people from immigration courts are members of the NRA.
timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
The 2A crowd brought us fascism by voting for literally anyone who told them they could keep their AR’s. Now we have fascism-lite with our government disappearing people unlawfully with plain-clothed goon squads, and the 2A crowd is on the side of the fascists. In other words, they were the ones screaming about the importance of the people being able to protect themselves from the government, for decades, and now that we’re in a situation were people actually need to do that, they’re on the sidelines cheering on the authoritarian government. A lot of people like me aren’t surprised at all.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I have a strong suspicion this crowd would have voted for their fascist candidates regardless of whether or not Americans had gun rights at the time. Fascism (not to mention other broadly similar strains of right wing authoritarianism) has managed to rise in several places throughout history and all over the world, without the specific assistance of our deep south gun nuts.
Tons of liberal supporters are also in favor of gun rights. It’s just that nobody’s catering to them, because they’re less lucrative of a voting bloc than racist rednecks.
timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Those are two great points, and I completely agree with both of em. The 2A thing, in the US, is just one of many tools the billionaire class has used in their propaganda machine to push the Overton window the way they have around the world.
nomy@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
This is a good analysis and a great point re: the wedge issues they use to divide us. God, Guns, and Gays. Things that actually impact a relatively small number of people, but that are central to a persons identity and so can be used to turn people (who might otherwise have a lot in common) against each other.