But don’t the kids who finish take revenge on the institutes a couple of years later when they are adults and realize how fucked up it is?
I mean, at least sue them or something? It said it existed 40 years.
Comment on Facebook advertised a professional child kidnapping service to me
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 days agoThe parents often truly do not understand how bad these camps are and are often deceived by the institutions themselves. Part of the strategies to make the treatment so outlandish, to use such strange terminology, that the kids can’t properly communicate the abuse without sounding insane.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Same reason victims of sexual assault struggle to go after the perpetrators.
HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
The kids who get out usually are not in a shape to fight back either mentally or financially and society looks down on them.
The best attempt was Paris Hilton.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
They are so fucked up when they leave that they don’t have the capacity to do much.
And even so, the institutions are protected. The people who get out “have a track record”.
Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 days ago
They also close down and rename all the time for exactly this reason. It makes it awfully hard to do anything when the court records say We Fuck Up Your Kid LLC hasn’t existed for 3 years. There’s also often layers of legal shells that need to be peeled away too - a lot of them hire teens and young adults partly because they don’t know the law and are easy to throw under the bus when someone DOES die, and they’re easy to threaten into silence. That also doesn’t get into the complicity of local LEOs, town and state governments, and just outright lying - my former boyfriend wound up in one before he killed himself, and to everyone on the outside, they were just told it was a mental hospital for teens, thus, anything they told you was a lie.*
undeffeined@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Jesus fucking Christ on a cracker, this makes no sense to me.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
When your kid has behavioral issues that start spiraling out of control, it can put a ton of strain on you and your family. It canbecome all consuming. You can’t send them to hang out with friends, you can’t send them to school, you can’t do anything without them likely lashing out or otherwise causing issues that disrupt everyone’s life constantly. That does not mean the kid is doing something wrong, the reality is just that it can be incredibly difficult to deal with day in and day out for.
At some point you’ll look for anyone that says “I can fix this. We can teach your kids what they need to learn.”
undeffeined@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Thank you for taking the time to write that. I can understand those circumstances, what I can’t wrap my head around is the methods described. Children need acceptance and love, on top of discipline; not punishement.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
That’s the other twisted side of all of this. Most of the time, it’s parents who think they are doing what is best for theirchildren. They truly want them to be happy and are just doing the best they can. These horrible organizations suck up their money and prey on their hope
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 days ago
American culture fetishizes “tough love” often at the expense of empathy. Its why our culture bounces between “beat children and make them work” and “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”. These institutions peddle the idea that parents are too soft on bad kids and since it fits our cultural narratives parents and judges often fall for it. This leads to overcorrection (“just talk it through with kids without punishment or consequences”) that reinforces the narrative.
There’s also this idea that teenagers arent really people with rights yet. Like, its insane to me that one can force a 16 year old into such a place against their will. They aren’t adults yet, but they’re close and deserve basic rights. But we have a strong cultural feeling of pater potestas when it comes to underage people.