Comment on Facebook advertised a professional child kidnapping service to me

• undeffeined@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Jesus fucking Christ on a cracker, this makes no sense to me.

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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    • undeffeined@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Thank you for taking the time to write that. I can understand those circumstances, what I can’t wrap my head around is the methods described. Children need acceptance and love, on top of discipline; not punishement.

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        American culture fetishizes “tough love” often at the expense of empathy. Its why our culture bounces between “beat children and make them work” and “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”. These institutions peddle the idea that parents are too soft on bad kids and since it fits our cultural narratives parents and judges often fall for it. This leads to overcorrection (“just talk it through with kids without punishment or consequences”) that reinforces the narrative.

        There’s also this idea that teenagers arent really people with rights yet. Like, its insane to me that one can force a 16 year old into such a place against their will. They aren’t adults yet, but they’re close and deserve basic rights. But we have a strong cultural feeling of pater potestas when it comes to underage people.

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• Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  But don’t the kids who finish take revenge on the institutes a couple of years later when they are adults and realize how fucked up it is?

  I mean, at least sue them or something? It said it existed 40 years.

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  • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The kids who get out usually are not in a shape to fight back either mentally or financially and society looks down on them.

    The best attempt was Paris Hilton.

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    They are so fucked up when they leave that they don’t have the capacity to do much.

    And even so, the institutions are protected. The people who get out “have a track record”.

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    • Mirshe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They also close down and rename all the time for exactly this reason. It makes it awfully hard to do anything when the court records say We Fuck Up Your Kid LLC hasn’t existed for 3 years. There’s also often layers of legal shells that need to be peeled away too - a lot of them hire teens and young adults partly because they don’t know the law and are easy to throw under the bus when someone DOES die, and they’re easy to threaten into silence. That also doesn’t get into the complicity of local LEOs, town and state governments, and just outright lying - my former boyfriend wound up in one before he killed himself, and to everyone on the outside, they were just told it was a mental hospital for teens, thus, anything they told you was a lie.*

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