That ain’t cool. That kid didn’t decide that.
Comment on Palantir Exposed: The New Deep State [27:27 | JUN 10 2025 | Glenn Greenwald]
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 week agoSnowden exposed Palantir?
You Americans really need some heroes. Snowden might have done some good, but as soon things got hot he folded like a cheap lawn chair and openly supported russian genocidal imperialism.
I hope Snowden and his family (his wife and kid) meet the same fate as they wish for Ukrainians in internment camps in the occupied territories.
whostosay@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 week ago
While I genuinely understand where you’re coming from, his kid will almost certainly grow up to be a russian genocidal imperialist.
whostosay@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Cross that bridge when you get there, it’s a child.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 week ago
We’ve crossed it a long time ago.
Out of the ~1.6 million russian men who took part/are taking part (dead, wounded, currently fighting) in the full scale invasion of Ukraine, how many were children in 2014 when the invasion started?
While adults russians are clearly responsible, when are you fighting the russians you cannot put your head in the sand and wish away the fact that there is a ~65% chance a russian child will grow up as an open supporter of genocidal imperialism and another 20% chance (for a total 85%) that they will be supporters of imperialism but perhaps not open supporters of genocidal aims.
P.S. Just an FYI, standard critiques about polling numbers are not relevant here, as these numbers exclude preference falsification (i.e. someone being afraid to state their true view), the “nominal” results are even higher.
lefixxx@lemmy.world 1 week ago
How did Snowden openly supported Russian genocidal imperialism?
Snowden is often criticizing Russian government and has shown no signs of working for them. Him being in Russia is because he is hunted by USA. If anything russia is supporting snowden
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Snowden messaging is directly aligned with russian security services and their key propaganda narratives.
Look at his messaging before the full scale invasion; until the invasion he was distributing russian propaganda about how “the invasion is not happening” and some world salad about NATO and BATO.
He routinely promotes messaging supportive of russian imprialism and spreads known falsehoods.
Snowden does not critize the russian government. Don’t lie.
lefixxx@lemmy.world 1 week ago
What messaging, what are you talking about? He has been laying low for years. His latest interview was Jan31 and the only relevant thing is him denying working for Russia
Do you have any articles to back up “folding like an lawn chair”,“routinely promoting messaging supportive of Russian imperialism”,“spreading falsehoods”
Here is how you do it: Here is an article about Snowden criticizing Russian government. buzzfeednews.com/…/is-edward-snowden-trying-to-ge…
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I gave you a specific example. Do a search for his tweets before Feb 24 2022 regarding Ukraine. Note how he was parroting russian official channel claims that the full scale invasion is not happening and ridiculing US security services (that correctly predicted that it is happening). Now do a search for official russian statements on this issue for this period.
You can do the searching yourself or feel free to assume that I am lying in order to discredit your little angel.
Secondly do lookup on who he promotes and what kind of things they say about Ukraine. This includes individuals claiming that everyone in Ukraine are Nazis and that Russia invasion was justified by security concerns. Both messages are openly promoted but the russians.
jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Ukraine, like many other countries, is being used as a pawn for the Western regime’s agenda.
It seems like Western pro-war people are okay with continuing this war until the last Ukrainian is kidnapped and sent to the front lines so that the oligarchs can gain more natural resources and military contracts.
Propaganda really works on most Western people; Russiagate and Russiophobia are still seen as serious issues…
Even after we learned (Snowden leaks) that our governments lie to us so they can maximize their for-profit forever wars in the Middle East, now they are attempting to antagonize Iran and China.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 week ago
[deleted]jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Nice try, but that won’t work with me.
Again with the desperate gatekeeping.
I will state again:
Ah, you also like to use Douglas Murray’s desperate attempts at gatekeeping what people can and can’t talk about.
I have not been to Palestine, nor do I speak Arabic, but I fully support the Palestinian people, and I know what my country is doing is fully supporting a genocide.
I don’t need to visit a certain country or speak any language to be able to see what is really going on.
More forever wars where the working class is sent to die while the oligarchs sit back and take all the important resources.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
jimmy dore lmao.
jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I see him as a comedian with populist opinions and rants.
Feel free to post critical videos on the JD community; all are welcome.
Don’t forget to have higher standards for politicians than for comedians.
The politicians (lackeys of oligarchs) are the ones with real power and influence to change our society for better or mostly for the worst.
All is well, peace.
K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 week ago
He went to Russia because Obama wanted him dead. Obama targeted more whistleblowers exposing US crimes than any other president before him. The commander in chief of US genocidal imperialism.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 week ago
What does this have to do with anything I said?
There are millions of people who fight freedoms all around the world and don’t back down when the going gets tough.
Snowden immediately started supporting russian genocidal imperialism. Look at his posts pre full scale invasion in Jan and Feb 2022. Complete alignment with russian propaganda about how they are not going to invade.
Hope Snowden and his family (wife and child) get to experience what they wish for Ukrainians in russian internment camps in the occupied territories.
K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Maybe your focus should be on fixing your own house before trying to fix others. Get rid of your governments corruption and their Nazis.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 week ago