To not support genocide denying, transphobic, authoritarian developers.
We're still all on the same Fediverse able to communicate, we're just using more 'ethical' software.
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Resplendent606@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I have not been on the Fediverse for a long time so please forgive my ignorance. Why would someone dislike or move away from Lemmy? I thought the point of Lemmy was to get away from Reddit.
Quokka@quokk.au 5 days ago
rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 5 days ago
Since both platform communicating with each other genocide deniers would also be shown on piefed
Quokka@quokk.au 5 days ago
The Lemmy devs are the genocide deniers.
rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 5 days ago
Many users are also genocide deniers
Resplendent606@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Sounds like as good of a reason if any to jump ship. Thank you.
viking@infosec.pub 5 days ago
The developers of Lemmy also run lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml, the former being a hardcore communist anti-everything delusional conspiracy crapshoot of a platform, the latter a tiny bit more relaxed, but moderated/administered by a bunch of dicks that are essentially also tankies (= hardcore leftists) and Russia fans/apologists.
They (the devs) recently asked for funding to support their work, and in doing so, disclosed that part of the funding would be used to run those two instances, thus giving users no alternative to support without cross-financing extremism.
Piefed is developed independently and has none of those links to moronic ideologies.
Resplendent606@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Thank you for the information. I want nothing to do with Russian apologists. Slava Ukraini
TheSaltyPenguin@piefed.social 5 days ago
Because Lemmy's Devs have extremely problematic positions and Lemmy as a software is severely lacking in features which other platforms like Piefed have. Lemmy is just a poor experience, but also Lemmy fosters dependency due to it's widespread use, meaning it's harder for people and servers to branch out into other platforms.
Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
People can always find problems if they look hard enough, lol. There are probably some legitimate complaints about Lemmy, but nothing is perfect. I find their messaging weird though. Like, you can be pro Piefed without having to be anti Lemmy. Seems needlessly combative to me.
Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 days ago
The problems with the Lemmy developers though is plain on the face of it. Problematic political and social positions. And then demanding that donations must go towards furthering those problematic political and social positions. Because they think they found this one weird trick that nobody can argue with. Their Flagship server is the political server. It’s not lemmy.org after all.
Not to mention that the admins of the server moderate more than most the moderators on the server. There is no free speech. It doesn’t matter how moderate or respectful you are. If you go against the narrative you will be banned.
Development wise they are also vanguard minded. Does the userbase want features the devs aren’t working on? That’s too bad. The devs are going to work on what they want to work on. Whether or not that’s a good thing. Which can sometimes it can be. It also has led to a number of people reluctant to contribute. The childish cliquesh behavior.
You’re not always going to agree with the politics and views of the people who write the software you use. And that is okay. But when they mix the two it’s not wrong to have issues with that.
Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
I keep forgetting about the dev issues, lol. Deffo legitimate problems one might have with a software for sure. I don’t run into that a lot over here on Lemmy.ca though, which is nice.
I stand by my assessment though. It’s still weird to me to promote one thing by shooting down another. Feels too much like politics in North America to me. They could have made a “Support Piefed” community instead.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I agree, this whole idea of canceling Lemmy is weird and just feels reactionary. Also Piefed running on Python doesn’t seem like something that can scale well nor something that can be perpetually worked on for the long haul without running into issues with new python releases and compatibility with them.
remotelove@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
I think you nailed it. For me personally, if I move to PieFed, it’s not because I want to “hurt” the devs, it’s because I really don’t want to be part of what they stand for.
Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 days ago
That and it speaks to a lack of maturity and professionalism which doesn’t inspire confidence in the project.
There’s no need to hurt the devs for sure though. They do that well enough on their own.