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Ileftreddit@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

While I detest violence in all forms, and respect peaceful protest and the power of the ballot box; it seems like the current administration is doing everything it can to disenfranchise the voters of this country, and preemptively using violence against peaceful protesters. I hope things don’t tip too far, because while Americans don’t riot like the French at the drop of a hat, there is an enormous amount of anger simmering among the working class people in this country, and I’d hate to see that erupt. If it does come to a head it will make the Paris riots like a sunny day on Lake Geneva.

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nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
A large part of that working class is fully captive to the corporate media narratives, and voted for Trump last November. They support this.

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- emmy67@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  They less support this, than the lies they were fed. His disapproval polling is clear on that
  
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  - p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    And yet, zero self-awareness to try to connect the actions to the outcome. If those same lies were fed to them in the exact same way, they will continue to do the same stupid thing.
    
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    emmy67@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    If they’re too busy worrying about where the next meal is coming from, can you blame them? I mean you can but surely that removes some of the blame
    
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Anomalocaris@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
i hate how vague the term violence is, as it can mean so much as to make it useless.

protesting is a form of violence, it is meant to hurt the status quo. if the protests blocks a road or impedes trade and therefore there’s some economical violence in there too.

but there’s also violence in an unfair system that creates those protests. people are protesting ICE kidnapping and disappearing people with support of the state. that is a much worse violence than that being used in the protest.

and the “violent” police response, was violent, because he literally shot a reporter.

because the term is so vague, anti violence as a moral stance is meaningless.

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Triasha@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Americans are packing more heat than the French. We won’t ever organize to shut down the country, but there will be more executions and attempted murders like the United Health CEO.

As people fall into despair most will rot away silently, but a minority will decide to take somebody with them.

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- FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  How about we organize instead? Make it a goal to go to the protest this weekend, meet one person whose sign you like, get their contact details and agree to meet up at the next protest. It’s that easy to get the ball rolling.
  
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  - Triasha@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Protest would be more effective to effect change, and I will be doing my part in my city.
    
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- mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  america may have tons of guns, but when what’s probably the majority of them are owned by people who seemingly approve of what’s happening, will there ever be the necessary large scale resistance?
  
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  - Triasha@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    For what I and probably you want to happen? Almost certainly not.
    
    For something to happen? I figure yes. I will be doing what I can to shape the future with peaceful protest.
    
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  - IDrawPoorly@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I mean guns guns guns people talk about but IEDs won Iraq.
    
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    SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Yes, if Americans rise up, I think it’ll look a lot more like The Troubles than the first American Civil War. For one, because there aren’t clear, geographical divisions this time, and indeed, I would guess that guerilla tactics are going to be more effective than guns against a military with overwhelming conventional warfare capabilities.
    
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    Triasha@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I wouldn’t be surprised to find more of those in use in the US I. The coming years.
    
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Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
and mostly targeting blue counties too.

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