And they are quickly eroding their victim privilege they gained through the suffering of their ancestors, which is shitting on their memory.
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possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
I hate that he uses the word antisemitic
There is a lot of antisemitic rhetoric these days. A bunch of activists on a humanitarian mission to save lives is not part of it. Israel is not the victim here
Akasazh@feddit.nl 9 months ago
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
The western Palestinian movement has become a hate group, and isn’t making any effort to mitigate anti-semitism within it’s ranks. Only make excuses are you are doing.
This flotilla is an anti-Israel propaganda mission, it doesn’t have anything to do with humanitarianism. Everyone, I mean everyone, knows Gaza is being blockaded and everyone knows there is no possibility of this ship actually getting to Gaza. One wonders if they even bothered to actually put food on the ship, because the point isn’t actually to get food to Gaza. The point is entirely about pushing an anti-Israel narrative.
Israel is not the victim here.
Israel is not a single person. The Israelis being held hostage are certainly victims. Antisemitism in the west has reached a point where it’s no longer safe to raise awareness that Hamas is still holding Israelis hostage, see the Boulder, CO attack. You’re being told you should dehumanize all Israelis (along with anyone that even has empathy for Israelis) so you can believe a simple narrative where all Israelis are evil. Likely you’re also being told that anyone that has empathy for Israelis being held hostage are evil (aka the “Zionist Jews”). You’re probably just not to the point where you’re believing all Jews are evil, but you might be willing to look the other way about the actions of those that do.
That’s how antisemitism works. 100% of the population of Nazi Germany didn’t hate Jews. They only needed to be made willing to look the other way and not ask too many questions while the Nazis were doing what they were doing.
You should be more willing to question the motives of the “Free Palestine” movement. “Free Palestine” were the words of a nutjob that tried to kill as many Jews he could simply because they had empathy for people being held hostage. What is the real goal of this movement? How are they trying to accomplish those goals?
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
You completely defeat your point by conflating Zionism with Judaism. Zionism is antisemetic as it literally discrimiates against Jews.
Goal is simple. Peace for all. And the obsticle to that is the far-right extermist Zionist government of Israel, not Jews.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected the notion of Palestinian statehood in a news conference on Thursday, claiming it “would endanger the state of Israel.”
rollingstone.com/…/netanyahu-from-river-sea-israe…
All you need to do to see the goal is actually read instead of blindly reposting Zionist talking points paid for by Israeli government.
otter@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
These are two comments that you have made, and I think people are pointing out the contradiction:
Israel is not a single person. The Israelis being held hostage are certainly victims. Antisemitism in the west has reached a point where it’s no longer safe to raise awareness that Hamas is still holding Israelis hostage, see the Boulder, CO attack. You’re being told you should dehumanize all Israelis (along with anyone that even has empathy for Israelis) so you can believe a simple narrative where all Israelis are evil. Likely you’re also being told that anyone that has empathy for Israelis being held hostage are evil (aka the “Zionist Jews”). You’re probably just not to the point where you’re believing all Jews are evil, but you might be willing to look the other way about the actions of those that do.
Yeah Italy just rolled over in WWII while Germany fought to the bitter end. Do you think it was better that Germany continued fighting when it was obvious they’d lost because some authoritarian asshole convinced them they should own all of the land they wanted with no more Jews?
Look at the photos of German cities at the end of WWII and look at Gaza. This kind of senseless hatred doesn’t accomplish anything other than getting a lot of people killed.
Palestinians are dying because of the hatred of Hamas and it will accomplish exactly nothing.
Also, in your opinion, what should people do in order to end the suffering and violence? Not just for any particular side, but for everyone.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The western
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You should be more willing to question the motives of the “Free
Palestinethe hostages” movement. “Free Palestine” were the words of a nutjob that tried to kill as many Jews he could simply because they had NO empathy for people being held hostage. What is the real goal of this movement? How are they trying to accomplish those goals?See I can make inflammatory shit too. Mine is even a little more accurate. :)
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
For what it is worth I agree with you. It seems that stopping antisemitic views as become mostly a conservative talking point.
With that being said, the Colorado governor made that hate for any group in Colorado will not be tolerated after the hate crime in Boulder.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
We’ve also had to pass laws here in Canada prohibiting protesting places of worship in some places. It’s because the “pro-Palestinian” were protesting Canadian Jews because… why?
The Antisemitism is rampant in that movement. It’s just a hate movement now. What do you suppose white supremacist looks at on the internet? An endless stream of videos and articles about black people committing crimes. Is that all that different from what the pro-Palestinian crowd looks at daily?
waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You sure are using a lot of words to defend a genocide
Rengoku@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
FREE FREE PALESTINE!
Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
No actually it’s pretty good, because it’s time the word dies and the special protected status of the Jews that no other people or race has is forgotten about. After Gaza, anti-Semitism isn’t a thing anymore and thankfully gen Z has no loyalty to Israel