Comment on Why are American cops allowed to be morbidly obese?

BossDj@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• verdigris@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Police unions are the only bad union.

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    All labor unions are good. Police unions are not.

    This is because police unions are not labor unions, since police are not labor but rather the enforcers for the owner class.

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  • floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They’re illegal in many other countries

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    • Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes, unions are too democratic, too humane. Police should have only one goal – to protect the government from peons. You can’t risk the police having any resemblance to humans. This might lead to failure in the main goal achievement.

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      • floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Cops aren’t exploited workers, they are armed agents of the state. They are not your friends, allies, etc. And whether or not they are human is entirely debatable. I’ve never seen any evidence to suggest it.

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      • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They have representation in other ways. For instance in Britain, where it is illegal for police to unionise, there is instead a government-funded Police Federation, which independently advocates for police working conditions and supplies advice and representation for police in disciplinary affairs. The main difference from a union is that it is free to members and that police are not allowed to go on strike.

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  • kobra@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So bad in fact, they’ve often made me wonder if any union is worth it if that’s the risk of what they could become.

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    • ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      With that mindset, why bother living or leaving the bed? Imagine the worst day you could have, why risk it?

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      • kobra@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sure, take it 100% literally. Don’t relate to the thought process at all.

        You all can’t be serious in that you haven’t thought the same thing. I didn’t say it 100% makes all unions bad I just shared a thought I occasionally have because of how bad the police union is in America.

        But yeah let’s fight with each other about it instead of eating the rich, good plan.

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• derry@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  “They’ll take what they can get.” Except for the smart ones. abcnews.go.com/US/…/story?id=95836

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  • BossDj@lemm.ee ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    …well shit. Too smart to be an officer is a thing.

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• grue@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Cities in pretty much the entire country are running with an understaffed police force.

  Counterpoint: Americans are already overpoliced and the “understaffing” is only relative to the authoritarians’ desire to make us even more so.

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  • BossDj@lemm.ee ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Makes sense. Maybe they wouldn’t be understaffed if they were utilized in places that actually mattered to people

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• Zenith@lemm.ee ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  France doesn’t let the police unionize, it’s the only group in the country try explicitly and expressly forbade from unionizing. Police should never be to unionize

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  • kaki@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The only group that can’t unionize is the military, there’s plenty of police unions in France.

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    • truite@jlai.lu ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And they unionize a lot.

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• sprite0@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  understaffed my asshole

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  • Sprinks@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I…i didnt realize this needed staffing…

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    • sprite0@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      get to work

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• octobob@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I live in Pittsburgh and there are literally no cops on duty from like 3-5 AM or something. We haven’t had a police chief in years, and I never see cops unless there’s a violent crime or a car accident or overdose. You can kinda do whatever you want in terms of traffic laws. I’ve never even heard of someone getting a traffic ticket in the city, and most times if you’re actually goin the speed limit you’re a hazard that isn’t following the flow of traffic. Completely different story in the suburbs outside the city.

  It kinda rules not gonna lie.

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• CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Additionally, cities that want physically fit officers have unions that demand that they are paid to work out. Cities don’t want to pay for that.

  So, usually the fitness requirements are only used when applying but aren’t used when you are in the force.

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  • Damage@feddit.it ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    cities that want physically fit officers have unions that demand that they are paid to work out

    Seems fairly reasonable to me

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