They’re just using the terminology that’s widespread in the field. The paper’s purpose is to prove that this terminology is unsuitable.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Why would they “prove” something that’s completely obvious?
thinking processes
The abstract of their paper is completely pseudo-scientific from the first sentence.
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 2 weeks ago
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I understand that people in this field regularly use pseudo-scientific language. But the terminology has never been suitable so it shouldn’t be used in the first place. They’re just feeding into the grift. That’s how they get paid.
tauonite@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s called science
Mbourgon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not when large swaths of people are being told to use it everyday. Upper management has bought in on it.
limelight79@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yep. I’m retired now, but before retirement a month or so ago, I was working on a project that relied on several hundred people back in 2020. “Why can’t AI do it?”
The people I worked with are continuing the research and putting it up against the human coders, but…there was definitely an element of “AI can do that, we won’t need people” next time. I sincerely hope management listens to reason. Our decisions would lead to potentially firing people, so I think we were able to push back on the “AI can make all of these decisions”…for now.
The AI people were all in, they were ready to build an interface that told the human what the AI would recommend for each item. Errrm, no, that’s not how an independent test works. We had to real them back in.
TheRealKuni@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I don’t want to be critical, but I think if you step back a bit and look and what you’re saying, you’re asking why we would bother to experiment and prove what we think we know.
That’s a perfectly normal and reasonable scientific pursuit. Yes, in a rational society the burden of proof would be on the grifters, but that’s never how it actually works. It’s always the doctors disproving the cure-all, not the snake oil salesmen failing to prove their own prove their own product.
There is value in this research, even if it fits what you already believe on the subject. I would think you would be thrilled to have your hypothesis confirmed.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The sticky wicket is the proof that humans (functioning ‘normally’) do more than pattern.
Hoimo@ani.social 2 weeks ago
I think if you look at child development research, you’ll see that kids can learn to do crazy shit with very little input, waaay less than you’d need to train a neural net to do the same. So either kids are the luckiest neural nets and always make the correct adjustment after failing, or they have some innate knowledge that isn’t pattern-based at all.
There’s even some examples in linguistics specifically, where children tend towards certain grammar rules despite all evidence in their language pointing to another rule. Pure pattern-matching would find the real-world rule without first modelling a different (universally common) rule.