Who needs this bs space program anyway?
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gian@lemmy.grys.it 4 days ago
I would suggest that maybe you should leave SpaceX alone, if you want to still have a space program.
Maybe think about to nationalize healthcare insurance, it seems to be something more usefull
n3cr0@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Legisign@europe.pub 4 days ago
The humanity does. Well, maybe not “need” it but deserve it. Finding out about the world around us is what we exist for.
n3cr0@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Then, how do we benefit from SpaceX? I’m not bashing the NASA, but I see no point in all the waste SpaceX is producing, down on earth and its orbit. These satelites are likely to crash one day in a chain reaction.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I mean you have to realize how important it will be to have fully reusable rockets and a significantly reduced price to get to space. The goal with starship is to reduce the cost of getting to orbit by at least an order of magnitude. When that starts to happen it’ll allow for new and exciting things to happen in space.
First, we can go back to the moon and to Mars, we can explore again. But more than that, it will make some new things possible. It will eventually become feasible for resource extraction and manufacturing to move to space. That would mean processes that produce harmful waste don’t have to happen on our planet. Mining asteroids would mean again, minimal ecological impact compared to mining a mountain on Earth. And of course creating industry in space is the first step towards a future where people actually live in space, the first step towards humanity getting a real foothold off of earth.
But you literally can’t get to any of those possibilities without reusable rockets first, it’s just not feasible.
Balex@lemmy.world 3 days ago
How are there so many people in this thread talking with such confidence and yet know absolutely nothing? SpaceX is the reason NASA doesn’t need to rely on Russia to get astronauts to and from the ISS, so that’s one huge benefit. And Starlink is in such a low orbit that their orbits are constantly decaying and will burn up in the atmosphere without any orbit corrections. So there will never be a chain reaction crash.
CybranM@feddit.nu 4 days ago
“Who needs NASA anyway”, “who needs to go to space anyway” Very narrow-minded viewpoint. Like it or not spacex is cutting edge
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Right? Like I’m assuming a lot of these people are self labeled progressives but they sure sound conservative to me. If any risk or collateral damage is unacceptable to make progress then we might as well just fucking go back to living in caves and be done with this civilization thing. I understand the disillusion with tech, and specifically the owners of said tech but you don’t have to swing to the other side and become a fucking Luddite or something. The problems are solvable through other mechanisms rather than just stopping tech innovation or this terrible terrible idea of nationalizing corporations.
These are the same people who complain about Trump having too much unfettered power btw. Ain’t that something?
Balex@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It’s also frustrating that people keep saying SpaceX “relies on taxpayer money” as if we’re just giving them money for no reason. It’s all contracts! SpaceX only gets money for providing some kind of service. They’re not being bailed out or anything. The Musk hate is justified but so misdirected.
CybranM@feddit.nu 4 days ago
Completely agree
gian@lemmy.grys.it 2 days ago
Right. Now go back to live in a cave.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Yeah, let’s leave all that power in the hands of one narcissistic egomaniac who’s frequently going on ketamine benders. What could possibly go wrong?
kautau@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yeah wait until we we have someone in power who gives a shit about science and then re-fund NASA and nationalize SpaceX under the NASA umbrella. (Pipe dreams, I know)
gian@lemmy.grys.it 2 days ago
I don’t think that the US currently can go back to the times when Kennedy announced that in 10 years they will put a man on the moon, by a long shot.
To have someone in power that give a shit about science, you need a revolution to wipe out the current political class and radically change the mentality of the population.