Comment on No more cordon blur: France prepares to ban vegetarian products from using meaty language

SSUPII@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• bob_wiley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I really don’t get it. If meat is so bad, why would vegetarians want stuff that looked and tried to taste like meat?

    Humans evolved to eat meat, but eating meat daily at the scale of 8 billion humans is destroying ecosystems and one of the worst contributors to carbon emissions.

    Humans evolved to be smart, and have created more sustainable alternatives. This isn’t a black or white issue, you can use meat alternatives just sometimes, rather than all the time, and still make a difference

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    • Uranium3006@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      People who think going vegan means eating sad tofu all day havn't been paying attention for the past 10 years

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    • bob_wiley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • HidingCat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Then this product isn't for you. It's for the rest who are more resistant and don't share your views.

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      • rmuk@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Can you tell me your preferred brand of cola, or laundry detergent, or car, or laptop, or fucking whatever so I can copypasta your message back at you.

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  • Anamnesis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Meat tastes great but the way we get it is pretty fucked up and can’t be ethically justified. So of course vegetarians and vegans want to eat something that tastes like meat but doesn’t come from animals. I’m always surprised that so many meat eaters assume that most vegetarians and vegans don’t like the taste of meat.

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    • HidingCat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is more for people who aren't vegetarians or vegans. The goal is to get people to eat less meat, so even if people don't go fully vegan with these products it's still a win.

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    • bob_wiley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • Anamnesis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t see how animals’ behavior is relevant, here. We have morality and can understand the effects of our actions on other sentient beings. Most animals don’t and can’t. That’s how we can have obligations other animals don’t have.

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      • young_broccoli@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Humans tend to kill animals much more humanely than any other animal

        Debatable, based on my personal experiences. But even if we asume this is true, its not how we kill them but how we force them to live before killing them, thats immoral IMO

        not all meat is factory farmed.

        True, however, its estimated that 90% of all the meat we produce globally comes from factory farms.

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  • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t really like vegetables so I eat a lot of meat. I don’t particularly like meat harvesting practices, though. I’m really interested in substitutes and lab grown.

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• Sphks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This IS because buyers get confused. I am French. I get confused.

  There are products that copy burgers to meet the demand of users willing to eat less meat. You can clearly see what it is and there is no issue with these products.

  But there are also products faking meaty products, with vegetables because it’s cheaper. Let’s take this one for example : www.auchan.fr/…/pr-C1159092 It’s not written “viande hachée [de boeuf]” (beef meat) on the package, because there is 20% of water and vegetables to be cheaper. However, everything is made to make you think it’s just beef. There is nothing really visible selling it as an alternative to eat less meat. There are just very small lines on the bottom of package. The title of the online shop is wrong, selling it as “viande hachée” (ground meat). It’s clearly misleading.

  There are tons of such examples and that’s why there is this new law in France.

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  • SSUPII@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh, understood. I thought packaging it was much more evident on their own, instead it’s actually hiding.

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