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Zacryon@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

That’s the difference between North Korea and the western world:

In North Korea the government forces spyware onto your device.

In the western world, people share their data voluntarily and publicly.

Instagram, Facebook, Dropbox and Co. made it possible.

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BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Don’t worry, the western governments also do it

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KumaSudosa@feddit.dk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
There is no better regime than the West in this regard. Force things on people? You’re gonna risk a revolt or dissent. ‘Subtly’ make people dependent on your product so they’ll voluntarily use it and share everything with you while you ‘subtly’ control the algorithm in your favour? Now that’s perfect. Social media is the ultimate tool of power and governance.

Although North Korea is a very “successful” oppressive regime, largely able to have full control over information both in and out of the country and to greatly limit desertion. I can’t think of a “better” regime in this regard.

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- CalipherJones@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s a matter of rhetoric a lot of the times with the states. We don’t invade countries, we defend democracy. Our government doesn’t spy on us, they protect homeland security. Etc etc
  
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  - WanderingVentra@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Reminds me of that great joke -
    
    A KGB agent and CIA agent meet up in a bar.
    “I have to admit, I’m always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up,” the CIA agent says. “Thank you,” the KGB says. “We do our best but truly, it’s nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them.” The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. “Thank you friend, but you must be confused… There’s no propaganda in America.”
    
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- musubibreakfast@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You’re gonna cook up a crazy theory like that and not even mention big daddy capitalism?
  
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  - Zacryon@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    What’s crazy about that?
    
    Haven’t heard of, e.g., Cambridge Analytica?
    
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  - KumaSudosa@feddit.dk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    How is that a “crazy theory”? Information control is not directly tied to capitalism but to any form of regime. The Western model and social media is, of course, strongly tied to capitalism and the desire for economic growth. How does that add to it?
    
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Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
And I definitely believe a NED sponsored SK site and the BBC. /s

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