Straw-hat much or just learning about logistics and sourcing in our globalized supply chain?
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surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 days agoJust curious. Do you know how many children had a hand in making your electronics?
utopiah@lemmy.world 4 days ago
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Satirically pointing out that worrying about electricity usage for model creation is ridiculous.
It’s already spent. The model exists. It’s probably MORE moral to use it as much as possible to get some positive value out of it. Otherwise it was just wasted.
utopiah@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yes indeed, yet my point is that we training models TODAY so if keep on not caring, then we do postpone the same problem, cf lemmy.world/post/30563785/17400518
Basically yes, use trained model today if you want but if you don’t set a trend then despite the undeniable ecological impact, there will be no corrective measure.
It’s not enough to just say “Oh well, it used a ton of energy. We MUST use it now.”
Anyway, my overall point was that training takes a ton of energy. I’m not asking your or OP or anyone else NOT to use such models. I’m solely pointing out that doing so without understand the process that lead to such models, including but not limited to energy for training, is naive at best.
piecat@lemmy.world 3 days ago
How much electricity was wasted for you to post, and us to receive, your human slop
utopiah@lemmy.world 4 days ago
FWIW the person I asked did reply, they don’t care : lemmy.world/post/30563785/17397024
Hope it helps.
utopiah@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Apologies for my sarcastic answer, I did actually search for that a little while ago so I do assume most people do know but that’s incorrect. The most useful tool I know of would probably be www.aspi.org.au/…/mapping-chinas-tech-giants/
Let me know if you are looking for something more precise. I know of few other tools which do help better understand who builds what and how, for electronics but other products too.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 4 days ago
- It’s obviously six children.
kieron115@startrek.website 4 days ago
Just curious, do you know how many trees were MOLESTED to create that air you’re breathing?
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I know at least seven were. It would’ve been more but I got a splinter and that really turned me off.
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 days ago
Yeah splinter is too vanilla, try rocksteady x shredder sub