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ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
That is such an odd headline. I was stuck a minute wondering which role Greta had in GoT.
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ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
That is such an odd headline. I was stuck a minute wondering which role Greta had in GoT.
Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 4 weeks ago
Hilariously it’s Davos, the smuggler famous for bringing onions to a besieged Storms End via boat.
SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Hey I’ve read the books (Yes, I am obnoxious). But I don’t remember any time when he was possessed by sexy underwater cuthulu creatures to kill melisandre. He wanted to murder her of his own fully concious accord.
Please explain.
Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 4 weeks ago
3 times in the books characters come back differently after miraculously surviving drowning. There are thousands of repeated myths of “Merlings” or “Silkies” in the ASOIAF universe, and we even see some hybrids (Biter is confirmed). Their whole thing is getting humans to make sacrifices to them, and they reproduce via humans. They have some abandoned land cities throughout the world like in Yeen and in Moat Cailin from when they were more powerful in ages past. They are worshipped by the Iron Islanders, given sacrifices, worshipped by the people of the Thousand Islands and feared by everyone who lives along the coast who all have Merling related cultures. It has something to do with the meteor of black stone that the bloodstone emperor called down from the heavens and crashed into the ocean to cause the Long Night (at least 3 places were hit by meteor(s), those being Bloodstone Island breaking the arm of Dorne), the Iron Islands, flooding the Neck & Stygai by the Shadow outside Asshai). This evil meteor seems to be sentient in some way and related to the red meteor from the series, hence why it heralds the 2nd long night. The traditional Maester’s explanation of the Hammer of the Waters being brought down by the Children makes no sense whatsoever, they hate the Long Night and fight against it. They didn’t cause it, and breaking the Arm of Dorne to stop the First Men coming over makes no sense because at that point millions of First Men were already there. Damage was done.
The first time we see water-based personality change and magic is Patchface, the most clear case. His ship was lost in a storm and he somehow survived 3 days in the ocean, washing up with the dead bodies but was still alive. From that point forward his personality completely changed and he started spouting what we as readers know are cryptic prophetic messages. He is clearly magical and in tune with either a god or something feeding messages and instructions to him. He’s not just crazy, he is prophetic. This was outside Storm’s End on the East Coast of Westeros.
The second time we see water-based personality change is The Damphair. Aeron Greyjoy was a partier and more chill guy before drowning in a shipwreck and coming back obsessed with the Watery Halls and the Iron Islander’s religion of worshipping the Deep Ones. The Iron Islanders used to be slaves and feeding/breeding stock to the Deep Ones (like those on the Thousand Islands) before the Grey King sailed from Essos and elevated their race from slavery. That’s why their culture is a mix of Deep Ones worship and Mariner culture from The Great Empire of the Dawn. Aeron is attempting to fight against his blasphemous brother Euron and is very clearly influenced by a severe change in personality from his time drowning and being “saved”.
The last time we see water-based personality change is Davos Seaworthy after he should have drowned in the Battle of the Blackwater Bay. He wakes up delirious and with an immediate driving compulsion to kill Melisandre, even though she had nothing to do with the deaths of his sons (Stannis was equally responsible for the botched siege but Davos doesn’t get mad at him). He then attempts to kill her based on his sea-hallucinations and delusions before being captured and given time to calm down. It seems his personality change was the most minor and temporary, possibly because he drowned the least badly.
What is the agenda of the Deep Ones? Possibly to bring about the 2nd long night and bring down another meteor, or possibly just to regain their ancient power and farm humans openly again. The rock pollutes the water (as seen in Stygai) and mutates the fish and wildlife. It’s possible that these soapy, oily black stones in the ocean are actually the origin of the Deep Ones or the source of their powers.
Deep Ones are Real: www.youtube.com/watch?v=67NrU0uZo2k
Aeron got Patchfaced: www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4kim_eNuYs
Moon Meteor Theory: www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUYAufRp5nI
SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Oh Wow, I am pretty sure in the 100 sq km of where I live, I am in the top 10 game of thrones weirdos, but I have never heard of this theory - specifically the part about the “Sentient Meteor” and “Bloodstone Island breaking the arm of Dorne”. That said, I like this part of the theory.
I know they did that, but I always thought it was limited to only a very few people.
Ehh… The dude’s a misogynists as well, did the deep ones program that in him too or leave that in? People change after near death experiences, I am sure Martin is playing with that rule. But I can still see it.
That is an interesting… speculation - tenor.com/…/interesting-speculation-the-terror-re…
See, this one is just not believable.
People aren’t rational beings. He, of course, wouldn’t hurt his liege lord, but a foreign woman influencing your lord? She’s the perfect scapegoat for his monkey brains at that moment. Dude lost four sons, he has to cope with the fact that he willingly let them all go into battle for a man whose odds of becoming the king are very low.
Also because I don’t like this fact. ‘Least Badly’ is not the modus operandi of the gods in ASOIAF. The magic in ASOIAF is cruel, weird, erratic, costly and full of mockery. I don’t think deep ones would just leave him like that. And I don’t think martin meant it and if he did, I’d chalk that up to “overwriting”. Though, he’s good at avoiding that. (so far)
Sure there are aspects to this that I like, but I think it too often veers into the territory of “He is the chosen one” or “My brother is actually cold hands or the hound is the grave digger” for my tastes. The way GRRM executes the chosen one story line is the most interesting one out of all the other authors, but it still is a chosen one story line. I like things to be less connected, that gives the world a sense of massive scale and depth.
Thanks for the videos, I have something new to binge.
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Please do explain