Comment on I am not a builder… but that does not seem right
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 4 days ago
So is true that in the US, the walls are so weak? they can’t even hold a TV?
In the EU (or atleast my part of it), studwalls are commonly used for the inner walls of office buildings. If you want to hang anything heavy on them (like a large TV), then you need to anchor it into the studs. Studwalls are not a bad solution, but if they are build as cheap as possible, then they can indeed be very flimsy.
I wouldn’t mind having a studwall in my own home, but I would use OSB+gypsum instead of 2*gypsum to give it some additional strength. And I’d never use it for outer walls.
Unless you’re hanging a CRT you really don’t need to bother screwing into the studs. Get the right type of plug and you can hang some pretty absurd weights from drywall, especially if most of the force is straight down like it would be with a tv mount. I really like the screw-in type plug. Easy to install, no possibility of the toggle not toggling or whatever.
If you want to mount one of those extendo-mounts I’d probably bother to screw it into the studs though, to be fair.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I don’t think so. Modern homes are usually standard drywall. I live in an older home that has wood panneling as was common in the '70s. It’s a bitch to hang anything with it.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 4 days ago
drywall is how you guys call that plaster infused cardboard construction material, right?
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Correct, gypsum infused cardboard, usually screwed into 2x4 wood studs. It can support a significant amount of weight if it is distributed evenly which is why we have drywall anchors to add stability, but it will never be as solid as a bolt sunk into a stud, weather and other conditions render it into wet chalk and your tv will swan dive into the carpet at some point
Noodle07@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Doesn’t feel safe to me, like the pig in the wooden house
daggermoon@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yes, but it’s more than that. I am by no means an expert though. The Wikipedia article can explain it better than me. What are your walls made of?
zerofk@lemm.ee 4 days ago
Note: not a professional, I’ve just helped a few people with renovations.
In Europe, usually brick, concrete, or in newer homes interior walls use “fast build bricks”, which are larger and lighter. In not sure, but pretty confident that these are largely gypsum.
Sometimes larger rooms are partitioned with plates made of cardboard and gypsum - I suspect these are very similar to your drywall. But these are not part of the permanent structure, and new owners will often change or remove them (but honestly they sometimes remove brick walls too, which is fine as long as it’s not a structural wall).
In my own house, one wall (between kitchen and dining room) is entirely wood. All the rest is brick, finished with plaster. This house was built in the early 80s.
Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The popular wood panels from the 70s and 80s is typically wainscoting and that shit is hella thin
daggermoon@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yes it is, and you can hear everything going on in the room next to yours.