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tal@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

“I’m skeptical of AI as it is currently practiced,” he said. "I think AI could have tremendous value, but LLMs are not the way there.

Ehhh. I don’t know if I’d go quite that far. I think that LLMs might be a component of a functional AGI. But just running a larger LLM model on bigger hardware is not going to suddenly barf out something that can act in the same sort of general way a human can, I agree there.

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br3d@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
If AGI is made of components, you could argue that it isn’t “general”. Which would be fine, as most psychologists would say the same about human intelligence

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- drspod@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  If AGI is made of components, you could argue that it isn’t “general”.
  
  Can you elaborate? I don’t get what you mean by this.
  
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  - br3d@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    The idea of general intelligence (g) is that you’ve got some overall capacity that can be turned to any task. Human intelligence is probably much more like a big toolbox of skills, and though. I worry that people who get excited about AI are kidding themselves a bit as it isn’t going to be general - it’s going to be a toolbox at best: an LLM for writing, a totally different system for drawing… And at that point you’ve not got some special interesting AGI - you’ve just reinvented the idea of apps
    
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    drspod@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I think you’ve misunderstood what AGI means.
    
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- entwine413@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  The human brain is made of components, so why not an AI brain?
  
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- Opinionhaver@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Isn’t human intelligence exactly what most people mean by “general intelligence”? The real question is whether it can be created artificially.
  
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ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I don’t think so, and I believe not even the current technology used for neural network simulations will bring us to AGI, yet alone LLMs.

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Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
AGI is artificial GENERAL intelligence, it is not the same as generative AI.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Generative_artificial_intellig…
GAI: is a subfield of artificial intelligence that uses generative models to produce text, images, videos, or other forms of data.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Artificial_general_intelligenc…

(AGI)—sometimes called human‑level intelligence AI—is a type of artificial intelligence that would match or surpass human capabilities across virtually all cognitive tasks

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- stephen01king@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  The article literally mentioned AGI, which is why he commented about the relationship between LLM and AGI. I agree with him, LLM by itself will never be an AGI, but it can definitely be a part of it, especially if it takes the role similar to the human language centre.
  
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