And this is the moment I realized that German “tja” (“well”) probably comes from French “tiens” even though I’ve had five years of French in school.
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drolex@sopuli.xyz 2 days agoTiens tiens tiens well I happen to be French as well and I have already judged you (I hate you because you probably are on the wrong side of the chocolatine/pain au chocolat debate)
dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 2 days ago
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 days ago
My understanding is french is the most Germanic of the romance languages, so I’d guess it came to them both from an older Germanic language
dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 2 days ago
I don’t think so. French “tiens” is a form of the verb “tenir” (“hold”). German “tja” is pronounced almost exactly the same and is only used as an interjection with a similar meaning but doesn’t have any related forms that I could think of.
Especially the southern German dialects have quite a few words that originated as loan words from French so it’s at least plausible. Could of course just be a coincidence as well.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah. Definitely might be a false cognate (if even that). Always look up etymologies if they interest you! Because so many that people repeat aren’t true. I was just speculating and hoped that was obvious, but maybe it wasn’t to everyone.
barsoap@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Unlikely as many Germanic languages have it, with similar meanings. It’s a variant of “ja”, yes. Add a bit of laconicy and you can make “Well.” a sentence in itself.
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
La chocolatine n’existe pas, ducon.
drolex@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Qu’est-ce que tu viens juste de dire sur moi, espèce de malotru ? Je te ferais remarquer que j’ai gagné la médaille du meilleur artisan de France, option viennoiserie et j’ai participé à plus de 300 concours régionaux de boulanger-pâtissier en Gascogne. Je suis entraîné en choco 2 barres et 3 barres et je suis le meilleur en pâte feuilletée de tout le sud-ouest. Pour moi, tu n’es rien de plus qu’un client ordinaire. Je vais te vendre une chocolatine comme tu n’en as jamais goûté, tu t’en souviendras. Tu crois que tu peux t’en sortir aussi facilement en me parlant comme ça sur internet ? Essaie encore. Pendant qu’on est en train de parler, j’ai contacté un livreur deliveroo et on est en train de remonter ta trace, donc tu ferais mieux de te préparer à une sacrée régalade, mon gros poulet.
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Le gars pense que les gens du sud-ouest savent faire de la pâte feuilletée, et il voudrait qu’on le prenne au sérieux. La seule pâte feuilleton digne de ce nom, on l’a fait dans le sud-EST. Amateur.