Comment on Judge finds police acted reasonably in shooting New Mexico man while at wrong address
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
I’m very anti cops, but as I read how he pointed the gun, I have a hard time supporting this lawsuit. The part about showing up at the wrong address I can still support unless the caller told them specifically his address. I didn’t continue reading at that point because I lost interest when he raised his firearm.
Hearing a knock at the door late on April 5, 2023, Dotson put on a robe, went downstairs and grabbed a handgun before answering. Police outside shined a flashlight as Dotson appeared and raised the firearm before three police officers opened fire, killing him. Dotson did not shoot.
The story does not specify whether or not the officers ever identified themselves. If they didn’t, then from his perspective he went to answer his door only to have a bright light in his face.
Yeah because it is 100% reasonable to answer a door while holding a gun. Something a normal person does. Completely sane.
Oh no wait, a normal person would just not open the door, or call the police themselves, or yell asking “who is it”. Imagine someone got hurt in an accident, they ran up to a house and got greeted by a handgun. Then the story wouldn’t be “fuck the cops” it’d be “fuck guns and the lunatic wielding them”.
I agree that opening the door was a mistake - I’m the type to check a camera when I hear a knock.
I think you’re missing the point of my comment. The firearm was likely pointed in response to the blinding light. Your hypothetical “person hurt in an accident” probably would not have had a gun pointed in their face.
By being unable to fathom why somebody would have the means to defend themselves when a stranger is at their door, you’re displaying a certain level of privilege. Must be nice.
He grabbed a handgun before answering the door. It doesn’t matter if he pointed it, if he waved it, or shown them how cool he looked with it. You don’t open the door with a gun in hand. What’s the A to Z of doing that? If it’s robbers, do you think you opening the door with a gun makes them magically disappear? What if it’s literally anyone else, because why would a robber knock on the door?
You call it a lack of privilege and I call it stupidity. Grabbing a gun means “I’m about to use deadly force”. Grabbing a gun to a situation that isn’t known to you is escalating everything to 11. As I said. If you are scared, you don’t open the door. Someone breaks in, sure, use that deadly force. But this isn’t that, this is a flashlight being pointed at a dude who knowingly got something that can end another person’s life, who overreacted and literally pulled a gun on cops.
“I am very anti cop”
Proceeds to be pro cop.
Fucking bootlickers are all the same and they think the rest of us are as stupid as they are.
“I’m very anti-cop, as long as people don’t do anything to defend themselves against irrational abuses of cops”
Fuck you. I bought The End of Policing (a book advocating socialism) for multiple family members. Using critical thinking is what distinguishes intelligent arguments from outright dogma.
Please read up on military rules of engagement. You don’t start shooting until they do. Our police force are ridiculous cowards who shoot before thinking all the time.
Why can our soldiers wait but our policemen can’t. This is just one thought experiment of many that will lead you away from your current mentality. Police are trained so wrong on so many levels.
dailymail.co.uk/…/Michigan-police-cancel-training…
So pardon me when I call bullshit on your “they saw him raise his gun.” We have more guns than American citizens in the US. They unfortunately can’t start shooting until there is a real threat and holding or even pointing a gun is not a credible threat when you are conducting a sanctioned home invasion, which I might add are almost always unnecessary.
Maybe they shouldn’t of shone a light at him making him unable to identify that it was cops. They used the light for obfuscation and it ruined his target recognition. It’s still their fault. It’s all their fault.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So whats your favorite flavor of boot? Seeing as how you lick them so willingly you must have a preference.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
You dunno shit about me.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I know you lick boots.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Get fucked.