Commenter above you said 60*C.
Not saying you’re wrong but one of you is and I don’t think OP heated their magnets to 310*C+
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Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Lesson learned, I guess 🙂 here’s some more:
At what temperature a material loses its permanent magnetic properties is called the Curie temperature. For Neodymium magnets this temperature is around 310–400°C (ca. 590–752°F). So if the heat is below that, you’re mostly safe.
Maybe look into how to design/modify a part and how you can pause your print a at a specific layer height so you can just drop in the magnets (use a drop of super glue to they won’t attach to the hot-end or make a test print with various diameters to find out the perfect width for press-fitting the magnets in) and then continue the print.
This also results in nicer looking prints because the magnets are invisible. Depending on thickness above the magnets and strength of the magnets the result might be less strong, so ideally there are only very few layers of material covering the magnets.
This is a very straightforward and in-depth video on how to do this in a good way:
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Ageroth@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
It depends on the type/grade of magnet
kmartburrito@lemmy.world 1 week ago
This should be higher up. OP clearly learned a lesson here but one larger lesson most everyone can learn is that neodymium magnets aren’t the only kind of magnets. Especially when high temperature performance is needed. Samarium Cobalt magnets are much better suited for high temperature and corrosive applications. Plus if I remember correctly they’ve been around longer.
Most neodymium loses it’s magnetism at 200-230C. Some Samarium Cobalt can retain their magnetic properties all the way up to 350C or higher grades up to 500C (1022F)
I nerded out on this a few years ago when I made a magnetic thermal blanket for my pellet smoker and experienced the same thing. Samarium Cobalt did the trick in my application.
neumast@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A soldering iron could be easily 310°C
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Yes but it doesn’t need to be, and the soldering iron being 310 doesn’t mean the magnet is 310.
mriguy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fun fact - some soldering irons regulate their temperature using the curie point. There’s a disk of ferromagnetic material with a particular curie point in the tip. A magnet in the barrel of the soldering iron is attracted to the tip, and when it sticks to the tip, it switches the heating element on. When the disk hits its curie temperature it’s no longer magnetic, and the magnetic switch opens and shuts off the heating element (it’s on a weak spring). When the tip cools down enough it becomes magnetic again, and the magnet is pulled to it and turns on the heater. You can have different tips with different curie temperatures, so one soldering iron can do multiple temperatures with very cheap internal electronics (basically, just a switch).
Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
I tend to solder at around 350C, so that’s entirely possible
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
This isn’t soldering though.
Eheran@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They lose their coercivity far sooner. The higher the magnetization, the more sensitive it is. So N52 is more temperature sensitive than N45 (but both start to suffer around 80 °C). You also get alloys that are more tolerant and get specifications like 44H that can be used up to 120 °C or 35SH up to 150 °C.