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trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Counterpoint: children are people

I grew up with my father working night shifts and my mother being tired all the time, I didn’t need a leash.

Children are a lot more capable and resilient if you give them the chance to be, and insulating them from small forms of possible harm doesn’t help their development.

Now I am not saying “let your toddler run around a highway” but if you pick a reasonable place for your child to play there’s no need for a fucking leash 99% of the time.

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Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
As always, “I grew up just fine” isn’t an argument for… well, anything. Especially because none of us can reasonably assume that’s true - even if we believe that you believe it’s true.

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- trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yes, the consequences of me not being tied up while my suburban mom has a 2 hour brunch are far reaching
  
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ChexMax@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
That’s not a great take.

Children are people, don’t make them wear diapers! They can pee anywhere they want!

Children are people! Don’t limit their screen time! If you just give them plenty of toys, they will be capable of limiting their own screen time!

Children are people! They are resilient! Let them watch R-rated films and have unfettered access to the Internet!

No one is talking about putting a leash on an eight year old. We’re talking about letting a 14 month old get to experience the privilege of walking in a public place rather than being trapped on Mom’s hip or in a stroller.

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CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

children are people

Very good! I’d give you a sticker, but I don’t know where you live.

insulating them from small forms of possible harm doesn’t help their development.

And a leash doesn’t do that. Being a hover parent does.

if you pick a reasonable place for your child to play there’s no need for a fucking leash 99% of the time.

What? Is that how you people think using a leash works? You think a leash is put on the child in the morning and isn’t taken off until the end of the day? Are you for real with that? Forget it, you don’t get a sticker for saying the dumbest thing I’ve heard today. And I’ve already watched a video about a flat earther.

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- trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You are absolutely insane and a lazy ass parent lmfao
  
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  - CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Learning’s hard, eh?
    
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    trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Parents don’t have the HoW dArE YoU tElL mE wHaT I dO tO mY cHiLd Is ShItTy attitude challenge
    
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- SuperEars@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I am reflecting on my own parenting. I see possible benefits of a leash.
  
  We’ve never used a leash. Instead I do a lot of yelling / stern vocalizations to keep kids away from areas they shouldn’t be. My approach is fraught with negative side effects because I often come off as angry, and my spouse and I work on checking me if it gets to be too much.
  
  A leash could be a good alternative, or just an additional option to incorporate. It’s food for thought.
  
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  - CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Instead I do a lot of yelling / stern vocalizations to keep kids away from areas they shouldn’t be.
    
    It’s a natural instinct to convey urgency of danger. It works for adults but it can be damaging to kids.
    
    The truth is that in a life or death situation, you do whatever you need to do to keep kids safe.
    
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