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• pishadoot@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “I saw it on YouTube and therefore it must be true, not basic economics”

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  • tyler@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re right, it is basic economics. Just not in the way stated. Adding pockets costs money. Women’s clothes are often created incredibly cheaply. It has nothing to do with women not wanting pockets.

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    • pishadoot@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Adding pockets costs next to nothing.

      You think this is some overlooked thing that the clothing industry never considered? That this is some secret niche that just hasn’t been filled? They don’t sell. If they did, then there would be brands or clothing lines with pockets, and marked up for the piddly cost of the manufacturing expense.

      That has NEVER HAPPENED. It’s not because the manufacturing can’t be priced adequately despite high consumer demand, it’s because for all the shouting at clouds, women, in general as a consumer demographic, do not buy pants with pockets.

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• cattywampas@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It is true. Women’s pants with big pockets are freely available, just do a Google shopping search and you’ll see. American Eagle, Gap, Abercrombie, Forever 21, Old Navy, H&M, Ann Taylor, Dickies, Patagonia, Levi’s, and the list goes on. All these retailers sell baggy and loose pants with big pockets.

  Also worth noting, Y2K fashion is very in with younger people and you’ll see them wearing a lot of baggy pants, I’m talking JNCO baggy.

  So why aren’t big-pocketed pants the standard in women’s fashion? It’s simple: women tend to want slimmer pants. It’s just a consumer decision.

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  • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Some women want the slimmer pants, yet all the options with pockets are baggy. Yes you need some space for a pocket, but that doesn’t mean the entire entire pant needs to be baggy.

    Men’s slim jeans are available with pockets able to accommodate a larger phone with out issue.

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  • tyler@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not a consumer decision. Women’s clothes are often created very cheaply. Adding pockets costs money. Therefore cheap (see slimmer clothes) are created without pockets, even if women would wear them with pockets. Your own explanation actually agrees with that by stating it’s tied to the looseness of the pants. You can’t get the look on baggy pants without actually putting the pockets there. If they could they would.

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    • cattywampas@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      All clothes can be created cheaply or expensively, for any gender. Men wear skinny jeans too, just like some wear baggy jeans.

      If women want pants with bigger pockets, why are they not being produced? The majority of fashion designers are women.

      My girlfriend only wears pants with big pockets. You know why? Because she wants to, and they’re available. Same with lots of other women I know.

      This isn’t some patriarchal conspiracy to keep women sexy or sell purses and handbags. It’s just what most of the consumers want, and I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to accept that.

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