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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Well the alternative is PC gaming, and building a competitive PC aint cheap. I remember on launch people were building computers with similar performance to the xbone/ps4. But now that entry level dGPUs aren’t a thing, and even mid range GPUs are expensive you get fucked either way.

The PS5 is at least powerful on launch. The 4 was on par with like a regular APU.

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frezik@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
If you’re not too stuck on modern AAA titles, PC gaming is cheap. Possibly the cost of the electricity coming out of the wall.

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sparky1337@ttrpg.network ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It used to be easy to build a PC that was double the performance of a console for the same price. And it was even easier if you sourced slightly used current hardware. Now you’re lucky to get last gen hardware for a decent price used. The market is garbage.

Back in 2014 you could get brand new motherboards for ~$50, where it’s difficult to find any under $150 that provide decent features. I think the most expensive thing at the time was NAND due to flooded factories but everything else was super cheap.

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LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
You know, I just finished building my machine the other day. And yeah it wasn’t cheap, but if you’re willing to forgo Nvidia… It’s actually a lot more affordable than you think. The new AMD’s smoke too.

$1700 all in. 9800x3d, 9070, aorus b650 board, 32gb ram, 2TB SSD, 850w be quiet PSU, a case that’s a bit too big with lots of airflow and built in fans. If I had gone with a 7xxx cpu and shaved other parts down i could’ve easily gotten it down to $1400. Less if I went with a previous gen GPU.

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- VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Personal anecdote. My PC cost me £900 in 2017. I haven’t upgraded it since. I have saved a significant amount of money in that time that would otherwise have been spent on PlayStation Plus for the benefit of playing multiplayer and the general higher price of games.
  
  Even if you accept the argument that consoles are significantly cheaper in the first place, the point that PC ownership saves money in the long run is often overlooked.
  
  I’ve never owned as many games for as little cost as I do now.
  
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  - ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    And the games that really demand the high-end hardware tend to be pretty rare in the grand scheme of things, not to mention less likely to be as good as the low spec games. I always joke with my friends that I might buy a killer new PC in the next year or so, but my most-played game will still be a 2D game from 2012 that absolutely doesn’t need it.
    
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    LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yeah I definitely over-spec’d my machine but that was largely because I was able to sell some old video and audio equipment I don’t use anymore to fund it. Figured I’d go for a “great for a decade” build. Got lots of slots I can still use for HDD’s, more ram, etc. if needed. And for $1700 it absolutely screams man. Running on bazzite, getting fantastic performance.
    
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- Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  A certified refurbished ps5 can be had right at this moment for $399, $450 new. I game on PC for many other reasons but the performance for value is pretty amazing on the ps5
  
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  - LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I agree. I was a console guy until this past weekend. My series S was money well spent, like my PS4 before it!
    
    However, I have a way bigger library now with cheaper games (also hundreds of free ones because I share a family library with other big gamers on Steam), it plays and looks better, and in 5+ years I’ll still be rocking AAA games long after the PS5 has sunset.
    
    I am actually a big defender of console gaming. It has a place and can be a very affordable option, especially when Nvidia cards are literally thousands of dollars. But PC gaming is often more economical in the long run if you throw down more upfront and do your research.
    
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    Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Same, yeah I mean once you’re established the actual cost of games on steam is ludicrously small depending on your habits. I’m pretty much locked-in to pc gaming simply for the love of indie titles that more often than not do not get published to consoles. Lots of those games are just straight up free
    
    We also have to consider the value the computer itself serves beyond just gaming. If you’re gonna get a $500 ps5 and you’re already going for an $800-$1200 computer, well hey. You could really get the best of both worlds without affecting the budget. Probably could even save money
    
    But I think there’s also a big group that isn’t in that situation. I know plenty of people who rock like a chromebook and the cheapest xbox. Or people who only play like NBA 2k or something. Or people who play 1-2 big titles a year when they get caught in the hype train, and can enjoy them at 4k60fps for the much lower upfront cost
    
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  - Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    You can also buy a used PC or laptop or CPU/GPU/…, buying them new when you want good performance for value is nonsense.
    
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    Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Certainly, but we’d then have to compare with the used ps5 market, which dips well below $300.
    
    Can a used pc or a build with used components be had with comparable performance to ps5? Even with a much larger budget of say, $800?
    
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Damage@feddit.it ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Building a PC that can compete with current console IS cheap

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I think more and more people have done the math on what your break-even is with a PC up front compared to noncompetitive digital console storefronts, needless forced obsolescence, and subscription fees.

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