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ApollosArrow@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

There is one worry I have about Lemmy being the knowledge of anything and it’s what happened on reddit. Many people went through and nuked their comments, essentially making many posts useless. There are already people here on lemmy that delete their profiles, comments and start over every few months. Not really sure what that means for all the federation, but I assume different instances may have different versions of deleted information in the long run?

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trillnsfw@lemmynsfw.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
the whole point is a living breathing community, not a wiki

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- trillnsfw@lemmynsfw.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  when somethings alive things die and go away forever
  
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  - ApollosArrow@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Which is fine, if that’s what the general consensus ends up being (I generally disagree with deleting knowledge, but that’s my own opinion and not up to me really), but then this should/will never be a place for knowledge and only just casual conversation. A lot of people on lemmy want it to replace reddit in terms of search results, but it may never be that.
    
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Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
On the flip side, keeping your personal online footprint small is definitely more secure.

Maybe we need a soft kill switch to disassociate content with an account after x amount of time. Like for me personally, I’ve put zero effort into mopping up old content, and as often as I post, I’m sure someone with the desire could put the pieces together and dox me.

I’ve left it up anyway cuz I don’t want to do to Lemmy what you’re concerned about, but if I could nuke all my content older than a few months into an anonymous version, I’d be all for that. Leave the info up for anyone who might benefit from it.

That said, for community building sake, I’d hate to see posts go anonymous right out the gate like some 4chan shit; and posts should be associated with an account at least long enough for mods to have a reasonable amount of time to take action against an account that breaks the rules. But again, posts that are months old? The conversation there is over - my personal involvement is moot at that point, it’s just data now.

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- ApollosArrow@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Disassociating with old comments and posts would be a good way to go, but I’m not really sure that’s an option for the fediverse? In theory couldn’t someone in the future set up an instance whose sole purpose is just back up and collect data? How would someone even go about trying to erase themselves from a situation like that?
  
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  - Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I don’t think there would be any way to protect from that, but you’d have the same issue with full deletion.
    
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  - Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You’re absolutely right, somebody totally could do that (instances that don’t respect post/reply deletion requests are already a known issue), and there’s very little you could do about that sort of thing once it’s already happened.
    
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    ApollosArrow@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Which is why I think people on lemmy need to get used to the fact that their data isn’t theirs to own on something that is so public facing like this. Instead we should reteach people to be conscious of what information they post. Once upon a time even A/S/L was too much info.
    
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throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
We can make a Fedi-Wiki that requires you to agree to the terms that everything you publish is considered public, kinda like a source code under GPL.

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- johntash@eviltoast.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  One of the lemmy devs is also working on a federated wiki. On mobile, so no link, but i think it’s Ibis?
  
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ozoned@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You can't stop people changing their mind about deleting stuff. That can and should happen for any number of reasons, both good and bad. There are servers that would still have the information, but it feels like there's less incentive to fully delete an account on the Fediverse as you can literally pick up the same conversation with a new account. Maybe I just don't do enough social media use and miss the point. I deleted my stuff from Reddit, because I don't want to help Reddit and it should be my private data. Fediverse we are all public and there is no tracking anyway. So whoever you are here, you're it here, no where else, even with the same name.

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