How dare you try to develop your own opinion. Don’t you know that white girls on social media get to tell you what to be offended by?
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falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
What in the world have I woken up into…
As an Asian/Taiwanese, I do not understand why Hexbearians feel the need to point out what’s racist for us.
The picture of Xi the Pooh is clearly a parody and pointed specifically at Xi and the CCP, and not a general racist insult to Asians. Every, and I mean EVERYONE, in East Asia knows that, including the Chinese themselves. We use/refer to it a lot ourselves on our own social media platforms in Taiwan (習維尼, 習: Xi, and Winnie the Pooh: 維尼), and if you mention any of it on Chinese social media Weibo/WeChat, you likely will get banned from the platform.
Kind of reminds me of cultural appropriation gone out of hand, where Westerners feel the need to be angry at other Westerners for wearing Japanese Kimonos or Chinese Quipaos. Like, no one here is offended. We don’t understand why those people feel the need to be angry for us.
Jmdatcs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Combating racism with racism. Well that’s just great.
Jmdatcs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
White paternalism is a form of racism. Are you one of those “the real racists are the ones calling out my racism” types?
somename@hexbear.net 1 year ago
It might not be racist your areas, but I’ve absolutely seen a lot of people be racist with it in the US. A lot of are from there, so I’ll admit we have a perspective bias, but when a large majority of the people we seeing spreading it are from that racist, US grown, bloc of posters, it kind of primes a response to it.
Murvel@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Can’t you just accept when your wrong?!
Go back into you hole now.
falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Sure. But I don’t think it warrants that big of a response, when it’s clearly a parody of Winnie the Pooh, which is yellow itself. If Pooh was somehow white, black, or green, it would be depicted as that. It has nothing to do with yellow skin.
somename@hexbear.net 1 year ago
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Winnie the Pooh was latched on to so well by Western audiences. The United States is a perennial winner in the racism olympics. Different crowds can draw connections on different parts of stuff.
falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Oh I’m quite aware that the US has some serious problems regarding racism. I think Winnie the Pooh is too widely known, plus the Streisand Effect kicking in when it was known that they censor a cartoon bear, that had people just dunking on them with this meme.
It also doesn’t help when the Chinese are taught in school to love their party and country, view the party as their own parents and not question them, that they become such snowflakes when people criticise their government. It becomes pretty easy to trigger them with just a photo/keyword. Either they blow up in your face, or if it’s on China’s platform the mods will come an delete the post/comment and give out bans.
Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 year ago
As an Asian/Taiwanese, I do not understand why Hexbearians feel the need to point out what’s racist for us.
You dont speak for billions of Chinese people. The fact that you chose to refer to Chinese people in the third person speaks to that.
Thank you for telling on yourself and your separatist friends for using racist memes in social media though.
falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
You dont speak for billions of Chinese people.
You don’t either. Stop with your self imposed superiority.
AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 year ago
You know who does speak for billions of Chinese people though? The guy you’re making a racist caricature of.
falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I don’t understand why you feel the need to protect a head of state of another country from being parodied either. If you live in China where they teach you to obey the rules of the CCP, thank the CCP and Xi for everything they provide, and basically view Xi as a god, then yeah I can see why. But you live in a Democratic state. The government is supposed to serve YOU, not the other way around. Sure you can show the leader some respect if you want, but it doesn’t mean everyone has to either. You don’t live in China where you can’t even make jokes about their leader.
Again, its a parody of Pooh, which is yellow. It has nothing to do with having yellow skin. If Pooh somehow is white/green/pink, that pic would be white/green/pink.
Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 year ago
I at least speak for one Chinese person, me. You claim not to be Chinese, so you speak for zero Chinese people.
falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I can read Chinese, and understand what people say on their social media. So let me ask you then, when you see a picture of Xi depicted as Winnie the Pooh, do you see it as an insult to your leader, or as racism in general? Cause from what I see, the point of “yellow skin” never came up in the conversations.
magikmw@lemm.ee 1 year ago
When satire and radical outrage converge.
HellAwaits@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Man, shut the fuck up, you fucking idiot
iegod@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Fuck you’re dumb.
MrMonkey@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Hexbear users are such shit they had to make an account on lemm.ee because hexbear is defederated from so many places. Fucking losers.
RoomAndBored@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Hey I wrote that post. The person I was responding to said Winnie is not allowed in the PRC at all, which is false. I then went on to acknowledge that Winnie is censored in other contexts, especially online. Please represent the conversation accurately.
falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
It wasn’t you. Don’t worry.
wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
How dare you not let the, probably also white, tankies decide what is and is not racist towards you. /s i hope they all kick rocks
randint@lemm.ee 1 year ago
嗨,難得可以在 Lemmy 上遇到台灣人。相信我,我懂你的心情。我前幾天也被六熊們搞得很煩。什麼新疆人過得很好、習維尼迷因是種族歧視、台灣是中共領土等巴拉巴拉的。
falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
嗨 是真的難得在這邊遇到台灣人 我也沒特別加入甚麼亞洲人群哈哈
我住北部 這邊風雨現在還好 明天看起來不會有颱風假了😂 東部南部跟離島看起來比較嚴重 希望你那邊安好:)
randint@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I also noticed the 1 or 2 people downvoting our comments. Seems like some people just downvote things they don’t understand. Pathetic indeed.
GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 year ago
It’s not Hexbear, we still can’t do that
randint@lemm.ee 1 year ago
我其實也住北部啦哈哈,風真的很大,雨普通大而已。謝謝關心 xD。但我還是不死心,希望明天有颱風假
randint@lemm.ee 1 year ago
剛剛宣布北北基桃明天正常上班上課… 眼神死
falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
坐等新竹
不過大概也沒望了 :(
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Having DeepL is pretty fun. :)
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Yeah as far as I know the Winnie the Pooh thing originated in the PRC. Apparently Xi is really upset about it and did a hard ban on it. But it’s kinda a Streisand effect kind of thing so places outside of the CCP’s control kinda ran with it.
But the hexbears are just conditioned to say it’s racist to try to shut down any conversation about it. I mean it’s their tyrant using censorship for an extremely petty reason. I probably wouldn’t call him Xi the Pooh myself if it weren’t for the fact that this tyrant is so butthurt and petty about it. And that’s what makes it hilarious. And fuck that guy.
Kind of reminds me of cultural appropriation gone out of hand, where Westerners feel the need to be angry at other Westerners for wearing Japanese Kimonos or Chinese Quipaos.
Yeah the whole cultural appropriation thing is weird. Sure it’s wrong to trivialize something that holds a lot cultural or religious significance to others. But people generally like seeing others participate in their culture, and they’ll let you know when something is sacred and not for a casual tourist to participate in.
When I went to Peru I bought a shirt from a tourist shop that was the local style. Everyone seemed happy to see that. One older woman said she was happy to see a westerner wearing the local style and invited me to a wedding. Approval all around… except for one guy that said I probably shouldn’t be wearing that shirt. It was a white guy from the UK (judging from the accent).
And the kimono thing is really weird. When I was in Kyoto, anyone could dress up as a samurai or a geisha. Not only was it acceptable, the shops would give discounts to people dressed up this way. Because it made things more fun. This may be shocking to some people, but cosplay is fairly popular in Japan. I also saw some dudes in a park cosplaying as American 1950s geasers. Was I offended by this because they were appropriating our culture? Of course not, they seemed to be having fun and nobody dresses that way anymore anyway.
The idea of a blanket stigmatizing of western people having any participation in other cultures seems like it’ll be a problem long term. If it’s ok for everyone in the world to adopt western culture, but not ok for westerners to adopt anything from anyone else’s culture, then western culture spreads and other cultures don’t. Seems to me like what happens with colonialism, but this time with good intentions! But intentions doesn’t change the result. And if the result is the spread of western culture while preventing the spread of other cultures, seems like a bad result to me.
barsoap@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I probably wouldn’t call him Xi the Pooh myself
If I were a head of state, on a suitable occasion I’d absolutely make sure that the state present is a selection of the finest local honeys. Also some mead for completeness’ sake. Let their diplomatic corps bend over backwards attempting to not insult such a fine offering of friendship.
HellAwaits@lemm.ee 1 year ago
As an Asian/Taiwanese, I do not understand why Hexbearians feel the need to point out what’s racist for us.
Exactly. There was a dumbfuck HexBear user yesterday that was trying to conflate criticism of the CCP as sinophobia.
PutangInaMo@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
One of them called me a nazi apologist because of something similar. Like how in the fuck did you make that connection? They’re delusional at best, a troll factory at worst.
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s called Whitesplaining and it’s actually in the dictionary.
www.dictionary.com/browse/whitesplain
“(of a white person) to comment on the minority experience or explain racism to a person of color in a condescending or blaming way…”
I think it’s a key giveaway that someone is a narcissist.
mah@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Annakah69@hexbear.net 1 year ago
No one cares that you’re Chinese and like the picture. It’s still racist.
maus@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Another 🤡
falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Why do you think you get to tell me what’s racist towards me? What makes you so special?
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 year ago
You’re racist!
SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 year ago
How’s that?
barsoap@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Not really westerners. Pretty much the whole US left with their history of fucked-up race relations and cultural penchant for either pussy-footing or waving their dicks around, nothing in between, and a small splattering of leftist from other countries drawn into their bullshit reasoning and inability to see context that is beyond the brim of their burger.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Watch out, you’re Taiwanese but you don’t exist to those racism fighters 👍
randint@lemm.ee 1 year ago
poof