Comment on doctors
gamer@lemm.ee 1 day agoThis is like vaccine skepticism.
Fat people are fat because they eat too much.
If Bob has a “slow metabolism”, then Bob should stop eating desert after dinner if he doesn’t want to be fat.
Fat people are fat because they eat too much.
You can have the same diet your entire life and fluctuate in weight significantly.
If Bob has a “slow metabolism”, then Bob should stop eating desert
Anything else? Breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Is your singular goal your weight or do you have any other considerations?
I’m not sure what you’re getting at with the diet question. That neither invalidates nor supports what I said.
If someone wants to be fat, they can be fat. I don’t care what other people do with their lives. I’m just pointing out that the reason why a person becomes fat is well-known, proven science. Denying that is akin to vaccine skepticism; it’s actively harmful to society. The past 8 years are a great example of what happens when we allow misinformation and pseudoscience to propagate, even if it seems silly/fringe/nobody-actually-believes-that.
If someone wants to be fat, they can be fat.
This isn’t a binary choice.
Denying that is akin to vaccine skepticism
Fad diets are the height of pseudo-science and routinely harm their practitioners.
It’s not a coincidence that vaccine skeptics are regularly peddling weight lose programs and other quack remedies that don’t work. Guys like Dr Oz and RJK Jr are at the forefront of both grifts.
I didn’t say being fat “is a binary choice”, and I never mentioned anything about fad diets.
I get the impression that I’ve struck a nerve, and you just want to lash out. Sorry if I upset you, but this is unproductive. Your comments aren’t addressing anything I’m saying, you’re just throwing stuff out to vent.
I have loved ones who are obese. If you’re struggling with your weight, fwiw, I don’t believe you’re worth less because of it. But please don’t spread misinformation, and instead take the time to learn more about the topic. If not for your own sake, for the sake of others who might be lured away from the path to recovery by misinfo you may unintentionally spread.
People “eat too much” because there’s something that’s already wrong with them that causes them to eat too much.
That may be the case, however the percentage of overweight individuals that almost certianly (as in the misreporting, not the percentage) misreport their caloric intake to their doctors is high enough that many doctors will just assume that they all lie.If they wanted to be believed they would either need actual evidence for their claims or to lose weight.
Speculater@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Plus, there relatively little variation between all humans in their resting metabolism. We’re talking 600 calories from the slowest metabolisms to the fastest.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
i hear the metabolism also adjusts to your weight. you actually need a deficit compared to your baseline.
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Completely anecdotal, but I have to assume that is incorrect, or that I have a fundamental misunderstanding. I have done tests and found that my body processes(in one hole->out another) food in about an hour. Which is absolutely insane and results in most of my evacuate being unprocessed. I’ve read that for other people in similar tests, they tend to average around 12 hours. Im guessing that means my understanding of what contitutes metabolism is incorrect?
kadup@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’re confusing solid food in my mouth with calories ingested.
If for whatever physiological reason your claim is correct, and your digestive system is indeed so fast food goes through unprocessed, you didn’t actually eat. You’ve eaten in the social, pleasurable or psychological sense, but these are not ingested calories, and therefore also completely irrelevant to your metabolism or diet.
If you could take a 1000 calorie burguer, cover it in plastic, swallow it and have it pass through intact… You just ingested zero calories. So you can’t later say “oh I regularly eat 1000 calories per meal and lose weight, but my partner chews a 300 calorie steak and gains weight!”
If you see what I mean.
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Yeah, fair. The difficulty comes in because i’ve never been diagnosed with any digestive issues somehow, so historically ive always just attributed it to the “fast metabolism” everyone tells me about. Honestly this conversation is about the first time ive ever put that sort of thought into it