Comment on Airlines Are Selling Your Data to ICE

Sibbo@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• FloMo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If I had to guess, obtaining the data by force may require a court order or legal process.

  Buying data that someone else is willingly selling bypasses those steps.

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  • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Any reasonable court would equate requiring a warrant and requiring payment in the context of the 4th amendment (and similar rights/laws in other countries).

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    • FloMo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I would think and hope that, but evidence tends to point to the contrary.

      A quick search brings up multiple articles including:

      arstechnica.com/…/nsa-finally-admits-to-spying-on…

      Guess those EULAS we all agreed to but never read had some sneaky language about what they can do with the data.

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• ILoveUnions@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah that’s one of the things that stood out as what the hell… the companies already have the data, if ICE wanted it legally they shouldn’t need to pay… Really shows how shady they’re being.

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The government can’t just take every companies data. They absolutely can buy it if that is an option though. Just like how they pay for licenses for software, they can and do pay for data.

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    • ILoveUnions@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Related to crimes, they kinda really can

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Correct, but this is about collecting it without any crime.

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• keegomatic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Since always, without a subpoena. Until PRISM, at least.

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• nevm@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  At least for foreigners travelling into the US, you’re willingly giving the US govt most of this information up front anyway via the APIS. And paying for the privilege!

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  • reiterationstation@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well you could have easily not fucking come here.

    Americans are just fucked (and they stole the election so we get to be hated for voting for him while we didn’t even vote for him, our allies have every excuse not to lift a finger to care. Really convenient.)

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    • nevm@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Unless of course you’re forced to, like for your job. My place would have little to zero sympathy for my personal reasons not to travel unless it’s on a govt advisory not to.

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      • pirat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Time to quit and find a better job…

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