Comment on Everyone Is Cheating Their Way Through College

al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Michal@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Only in the USA

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• TonyOstrich@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s always been my issue. I worked full time and went to school full time when I was in college and still had to take out some loans. I did have some scholarship money that covered about half of it, but they only covered four years. My degree path didn’t have any free electives meaning in every assignment, test, and class I only had a single shot. Failing would likely mean having to retake a class and push graduating out to a year which would have doubled the amount of debt I came out with. All just to get a piece of paper that would allow me to do the job that I knew I would be good at and enjoy.

  The entire course of my life was at the mercy of some bad teachers and worse bureaucracy. I get that my profession shouldn’t just hire people without any kind of training and hope for the best, and there were things I learned that had value, but the stakes and imbalance of power is so high I can’t really be mad at some one “cheating” when they themselves are getting royally fucked.

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  • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you’re only doing university for a piece of paper, you done gone screwed up.

    University is to learn how academia works so that you can continue your development independently afterwards. You become capable of researching topics, reading the papers and solving a problem you’ve never faced before.

    Nobody ever tells you this, but your first degree is more about developing you than developing your knowledge. If you just askGPT the whole time you’re cheating yourself.

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    • TonyOstrich@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s great, but if they want to make that the goal then they should structure it in a way that is more conducive to that goal. When failure without dire consequences isn’t an option, then they have fucked up.

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    • anachrohack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Academia is a universe unlike anything else in the world. Academics will not prepare you for a job in the real world; it will prepare you to climb the academic ladder

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• platypode@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes, wholeheartedly. They’re not cheating the school—they’re cheating themselves. If you’re paying 200k+ for an education, for what earthly reason would you then skip the actual education?

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  • al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Please go on tell me again how college actually translates to working a real job. What’s the point of knowing anything you can look it up just as fast. Also as fast as tech changes it’s not worth it to commiting time and energy beyond the basic understanding of things.

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