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lime@feddit.nu ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

blue prince frustrates me so much because it just won’t let me play. people keep saying you can bypass the rng with things you find but the game still has to let you find the things. it took me almost 40 days to first roll credits despite getting the initial basement stuff done on day 16 because i just keep. getting. shafted.

i have pages and pages of notes and nowhere to use them.

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domi@lemmy.secnd.me ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I had the same issue in the late game of Blue Prince.

The RNG is pretty fun at first but it quickly becomes frustrating when you have specific layouts in your mind. You gain some control but not enough to make it fun to restart over and over again until you don’t get shafted.

My solution was simple: I cheated. I gave myself infinite dice and rerolled the rooms until I got the layout I was looking for. Much more enjoyable that way.

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Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
You do get RNG control eventually, but like everything in Blue Prince it’s locked behind a puzzle. Well, that and certain room upgrades like taking any upgrade that gives you +2 Dice.

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Have you gotten to the bottom of the sheet music you can find around the house? That’s what you want to investigate otherwise.

It takes some time, but you have tools to mould the house however you want. However, RNG is definitely a factor there is no denying that. In the beginning though I didn’t mind so much as there are so many mysteries to investigate that no run ever feels “dead” - you always learn something or progress somewhere. It’s mostly towards the end where it can get frustrating as you’re looking for for example specific room combinations, but as I said - by then you have the tools to control it somewhat.

I also never really got frustrated because there is no time limit and no penalty to calling it a day. If a run doesn’t work out it’s so quick and easy to just go again.

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- lime@feddit.nu ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  i think the main thing that’s lacking in discussions is the acknowledgement that by its very nature people are going to have very different experiences. one thing i thought of was that the game should probably not be described as a “roguelike puzzle game” but as “a roguelike game and a puzzle game” just like how cult of the lamb is “a roguelike game and a management game”. they are the sum of their parts, not greater.
  
  as for things i have done so far...
  * orchard * tomb to catacomb * sheet music dig spot * 3/4 braziers * paintings, and * 2/8 safes (the date format is too vague for me to be interested in trying the permutations) * tunnel * 2/8 classrooms (i never get more) * fountain to basement * foundation to basement (it’s at rank 4 because fun fact, while the entry on the foundation says it’s “permanent”, the blueprint itself says “doesn’t change”, which i interpreted to be a different wording on purpose) * dig spot in basement (can’t remember the room, haven’t seen it since) * hall of mirrors (can’t remember if there was something permanent in there things i know i have not done: * shelter radiation thing (i have created 12 experiments and finished 1 because i never get the items required) * anything involving steam pipes (rng) * periodic table (didn’t feel like it at the time) * candles in tomb (have only gotten all prerequisites once) * candle room in mine (same as above) * chess (have coords of all pieces, can’t enter anywhere) * anything involving money (no experiments = no quick allowance raises, i’m at 4) * VAC (can solve, no idea what it does) * classrooms (rng) * server room? (never seen, got servants quarters on day 40) * gallery? (never seen, saw name on wiki) * anything story-related whatsoever * probably more i can’t remember * more volumes of drafting strategy (i’ve never seen the bookshop)
  
  it just feels like i keep having to fight to find things. it’s more frustrating than anything. and the worst part is that hints are usually useless because even when you know you still have to roll the dice.
  
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  - Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Well, it looks like you have a pretty solid list of tasks to work on. Have you been back to room 46? That should be on your list as well. Have you been through the Garage?
    
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    lime@feddit.nu ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    no, it was such a tedious task that i don’t want to go through it again. i dropped the game after credits. maybe i’ll pick in up again in the future but right now all i associate with it is annoyance.
    
    i’ve never seen the conservatory while drafting either, i’ve had it for 20 days and never pulled it.
    
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