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• Sharkwellington@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I genuinely would like to understand what you guys at hexbear are about but every time I poke my head into that instance you guys are “dunking” every other instance with language nobody else understands. It’s very alienating.

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  • dolphin@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lol that’s fair. We’ve developed a pretty insular culture over the past three years and I can see how it’s hard to decipher.

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    • yuri@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      you guys are also like, just huge dicks without provocation. like all the fucken time. 99% of what i see from hexbear users is either condescension or outright hostility.

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      • Kuori@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        honestly it’s a pretty friendly instance all told, we just have p strong feelings about politics and bigotry

        and admittedly a lot of us have little patience for the worst among you bc we deal with that shit permeating society at every level on a constant basis

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      • Egon@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I see a lot of hexbear users be provocative, but I’ve yet to see it without reason. It’s in response to someone else acting in bad faith. When you see someone act rude, take a step back and consider why they are acting rude.
        Not to say we don’t have users that are too quick on the draw of the ppb, but your website certainly has cantankerous assholes as well. Every site has.

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      • Staines@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Hexbear - “that’s true, I see how our culture can be hard to decipher” Lemmylib - “you guys are huge dicks without provocation” Hexbear - oh well fuck you then :) Lemmylib - “see, so hostile!”

        If we respond to people being needlessly aggro with quip derision it’s “so uncivil!” If we respond to people in good faith by trying to explain our differing views it’s “wow im not going to read that!”

        So what should we do?

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      • brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You have a very strange idea of “without provocation”

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  • Doubledee@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Honestly your best bet is probably to do some reading first, unfortunately. A lot of Hexbear dialect is that way because it’s tied to concepts that come from books and thinkers we’re broadly familiar with.

    If you’re more into video stuff you could try this guy. I think he’s pretty approachable.

    Actually if you went into the megathreads and asked most people would probably give you suggestions too. We are fiesty but in my experience we also like to be helpful to people with questions.

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  • Venus@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We’re literally just communists. Read any introductory text to communism and 99% of what we say will make sense in context.

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    • YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Donald Trump is a liberal”

      Break this down.

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      • Nama@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’ll oversimplify a bit, but here you go. In economic terms, liberalism is a market oriented economy, and the current iteration of neoliberalism is marked by social welfare cuts and tax cuts for the rich with “trickle down” effect in mind (allegedly). That ideology is shared by both the democratic and republican parties. The difference between communists and liberals in the sense the word is most often used, is that economic approach, and from that perspective both liberals and conservatives are “liberal”.

        Now the common use of the word is a bit different, but that’s almost exclusively US from what I can tell. Hexbear is also international though, and liberal is a common term for right wingers where I’m from for example.

        Hope I could help.

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      • SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Liberalism has a couple of different definitions. The one you’re thinking of is the one in US politics where “Liberal” is synonymous with "Left’. This isn’t how it’s being used here though.

        Liberalism, as a broad ideological trend that came out of the enlightenment, contains within it, Conservatism. Conservatism was theorized by people like Edmund Burke who, seeing that the previous feudal hierarchy was dying off, sought to preserve it, at least as much as was possible, by accepting Liberal notions of property rights and capitalism.

        So, instead of a social hierarchy being ordained by God, it’s decided by the market, and social conflict is meditated through the liberal, Lockean, Republic.

        So when we call Trump a liberal, we mean it in this broad sense. He’s still a conservative, but conservatism is a subset of capital L Liberalism.

        This is in contrast to Leftism, which also contains a lot of things within it, but breaks from a lot of the philosophical assumptions that undergird Liberalism.

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      • WhyEssEff@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        liberalism is the ideology of capitalism. donald trump is a capitalist. donald trump is a liberal. easy.

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      • sawne128@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Is there anything confusing about that statement?

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  • SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I genuinely would like to understand what you guys at hexbear are about

    Well, I’d be more than happy to have a good faith discussion with you. No dunking, I promise 🙏

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  • Egon@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    New tagline dropped @CARCOSA@hexbear.net

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  • epicspongee@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    To be clear in the dunking threads folks are not usually engaging in good faith with us. When I was on another server and replied with actual questions to stuff everyone was incredibly nice to me and explained stuff super well. Can agree though that folks can see dunking as alientating. I promise though if you can get past that it’s one of the friendliest communities I’ve found on the web.

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  • AOCapitulator@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you ask good faith questions and give context for why “Hey, I’m a liberal and I don’t understand X could you explain what you mean?”

    You WILL get excellent engagement and people will give you very good answers

    its easy, and if you genuinely want to learn give it a shot

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