Comment on Are we all suffering from "future shock" in 2025?

SouthFresh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• yarr@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Was the past not racist?

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  • toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    i’m in my early 40s. back when i was a kid - even in the southern US - there was a clear message that racism was on its way out. tons of sitcoms even did special episodes about it! (/s) And because media was so controlled back then (ie you couldn’t just post something to the internet), a lot of people actually blelieved it. i know that i did as a kid who didn’t know any better.

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    • yarr@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is this similar to violent crime? A lot of right wingers bemoan the increasing amount of violence in “blue states and cities”. Except, almost by any way you can measure it, violent crime has been on the decrease for years now. Is racism becoming worse, or are you just becoming more aware of it?

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      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think it depends where you place the starting point. It’s certainly less racist than the 1800s, or even the 1940s. But if you only measure your own lifetime (so call it starting at the early 1980s), I think it did dip in the late 90s, and stayed in the dip until about 2008. Then it came soaring back to 1980s levels.

        And now it feels like it’s rising, being used as a tool of fascism.

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    • Olhonestjim@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same here. Grew up deep in the South. Kids got in trouble for racist talk in public school.

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      • toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        i want to say i don’t know what changed, but the only thing that changed is that the government they hate said it’s fine to hate again. stupid isn’t even the word

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  • TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nobody’s suggesting it wasn’t. But a lot of us have lived our whole lives with the idea that racism was generally frowned upon by most and that it was naturally dying out. I don’t think many of us could have predicted how readily it would come roaring back, along with god damn nazis, FFS.

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  • SouthFresh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes it absolutely was. And while we seemed for a while to have been on a trajectory where it was decreasing steadily, that sure changed quickly.

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• HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Eh, I’m not surprised. I’m more surprised at how comfortable with people being racist in public.

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  • No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Same thing I think when I see Magats wearing that red cap.

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• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Compared to 1970? Trump is making it worse but it’s not that bad yet.

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  • SouthFresh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nope. The 1970s were better than the 60s, and worse than the 80s. And the 90s were better still. The early 2000s were even better… but here we are certainly backtracking from where things had been going.

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    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I didn’t say that the 70’s were worse than the 1960’s!!!

      I said the 1970’s were worse than today.

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      • SouthFresh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Compared to

        We’re in agreement. My “nope” was directed at your question. The rest of my comment was illustrating why I’m shocked at how racist things have become. Because the trend was to improve until recently.

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