Comment on Tesla's "Predictive" Odometers Had 9+ Drivers Complaining of Inaccuracy Before Lawsuit. We Even Found Video!

• cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is misleading, it is illegal in Germany, if it is about changing the odometer to a wrong record, and only legal to correct it, if it was broken or is replaced.

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  • xav@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yes you’re right. However it seems that around 30% of the used cars sold from Germany are concerned. A law that is not enforced is a fake law.

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    • cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What do you mean with “not enforced”? Do you mean that people that find manipulated odometers with proof go to court and then nothing is done?

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      • warbond@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        When I lived in Germany I found that the people were far more self-policing than Americans. There just seemed to be a general attitude of, “we know we’re not supposed to do that, so we don’t.”

        Fully anecdotal, sure, and that was 15 years ago, but nonetheless it’s hard for me to imagine “ze Germans” tampering with odometers to sell cars.

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    • kungen@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Is the odometer not recorded when having yearly inspections? Or do people cheat it before those as well?

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      • cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        They are recorded in multiple different events (repairs at a professional service, oil change, inspections, etc.), but as a buyer you would have to become active, ask for and check the papers, contact past owners, inspect the car, etc.

        Because changing the odometer is easy and cheap, and can raise the price at an average of 3000€ per car, it is done rather often and not discovered in many cases.

        While there are laws against it, the implementation of more manipulation resistant odometers by the car vendors is still not there yet broadly.

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• TRock@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  How the hell is this not illegal in Germany?! They love to over regulate everything

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  • cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It is illegal in Germeny, if the purpose is to falsify it, and legal to correct a wrong record: www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stvg/__22b.html

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    • Master@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The trick is to correct it to a wrong record!

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