Comment on France to ban students from keeping smartphones in schools

AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  there is no “the” answer but it can be part of an answer.

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• Akrenion@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think it is fine but we also need lessons to properly interact with the technology. Scams, fraud, disinformation and checking sources were handled very abstractly at best and archaic at worst.

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  • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Gen alpha is significantly worse than prior generations on tech. Them having their phones on them doesn’t teach them, they consume on the lowest level. They don’t learn the actual Internet skills prior generations had to to survive.

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• Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It is. Phones are the #1 distractor in school

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  • AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Boring lessons are pretty big distractors. I seen kids fall asleep and daydream long before smartphones were even a thing. Make learning fun and the kids will engage. Confiscating their possessions is a hostile move that never goes down well.

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    • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s necessary. Phones are far worse than prior to phones, and I’ve seen both sides of it.

      Boring lessons is a fact of life. People need to realize that not all education can be interesting. Sometimes you gotta suck it up, sit down, and learn. And I say this as someone with crippling adhd

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    • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My classrooms banned phones so I played games on my graphing calculator or did the old fashioned drawing.

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s not enough that they need to buy their own supplies, get paid next to nothing, and deal with angry parents over every F. Now they need to be infotainment competing for attention with anything a kid can find on their cell phone.

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    • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      day-dreaming isn’t intrinsically bad. People do need time to think about stuff, and have their mind drift from topic to topic. Some modern teaching practices advocate deliberate “brain breaks” for students.

      The issue with phones isn’t so much that students are sometimes off task, but rather that the phone consumes their attention entirely. It uses up the students’ useful concentration as well as their ‘rest’ time.

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  • randon31415@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Dude, it’s been 2 centuries, take a hint

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    • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is not about socialization lmfao. different topic.

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• wjrii@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I do sometimes think there is a bit of hand-wringing that happens where people glom onto the most visible sign of changing times and blame it for things that probably aren’t as different as the adults think, but by the same token most schools in richer countries have screens everywhere with school-related interconnectivity and even tools that are not unlike social media.

  I see very little downside here, even if it may not result in some magic rebirth of older forms of social interaction. It seems like the major benefit from the French pilot programs was “improved atmosphere,” in which case it’s still better than nothing. Having a period when kids are learning to deal with small-group dynamics is not a bad thing, and neither is taking “dealing with phone bullshit” off the teachers’ plates.

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